Winter Rim Setups

[Sybaritic]

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My new ride! Picked her up today with winter wheel/tire package installed (19" Fast Wheel K025). Love the way it looks.

Hi Sports, what size winter tires did you install? Staggered, or 1 size all around??

 

[TheAlien666]

Hi Sports, what size winter tires did you install? Staggered, or 1 size all around??

I went for 18 inches all around with dedicated mags.

 

[RM7]

I went for 18 inches all around with dedicated mags.

What size tires?

 

[TheAlien666]

What size tires?

225/45 R18 95T General Tire Altimax Arctic 12 all around. Very satisfied with them in the snow.

 

[902_Stinger]

Finally able to post my winter setup - Conti WinterContact Si 245x40x18 - Rims FC04 18x9. Now just waiting on the snow
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Finally able to post my winter setup - Conti WinterContact Si 245x40x18 - Rims FC04 18x9. Now just waiting on the snow
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Finally able to post my winter setup - Conti WinterContact Si 245x40x18 - Rims FC04 18x9. Now just waiting on the snow
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I know this was a while back... But I'm looking for the same setup. Have you had any issues with clearance or rubbing?

 

[RM7]

I know this was a while back... But I'm looking for the same setup. Have you had any issues with clearance or rubbing?

Gunna depend on the offset, I run 18x8.5 with 255 tires, the closest point is at the rim and strut, very little clearance, like just a few mm, but no signs of rubbing after a season. A 9” 18 is probably going to need less offset.

 

[902_Stinger]

Gunna depend on the offset, I run 18x8.5 with 255 tires, the closest point is at the rim and strut, very little clearance, like just a few mm, but no signs of rubbing after a season. A 9” 18 is probably going to need less offset.

What offset do you have? And I imagine you run 255/40/18? How do you like it in comparison to the OEM staggered setup?

 

[RM7]

What offset do you have? And I imagine you run 255/40/18? How do you like it in comparison to the OEM staggered setup?

OEM setups are often way too far towards understeer, and cars this heavy need a good amount of rubber underfoot IMO. I like the setup. But the clearance at the strut is the key and there isn’t much. I was sticking a mirror back there to see and maybe less than 10mm, but no rubbing evident. Wider rim is tricky up front, but I wanted square for rotating.

 

[RogueIV]

running a bit wide there for winter work. Should be running something narrower in winter.

 

[RM7]

running a bit wide there for winter work. Should be running something narrower in winter.

Right, because everyone is driving through 2 feet of snow.

While if you are driving through a lot of new snow, skinnier does penetrate more, it works against you for traction in other situations, which you are likely encountering more of the time, where contact area is the important factor. If we were talking a subaru cross-trek or pickup truck, ok, but if you are driving through that kind of snow, your stinger is a snow-plow now. The idea that you need 205s or whatever is a bit ridiculous. He'll be fine with 245 in the winter, that's what I had as my winter setup on my BMW 4 series, through snow, ice and every possible iteration. I'm on 225s right now for winter, but that's just because it's what I had lying around.

 

[RogueIV]

Right, because everyone is driving through 2 feet of snow.

While if you are driving through a lot of new snow, skinnier does penetrate more, it works against you for traction in other situations, which you are likely encountering more of the time, where contact area is the important factor. If we were talking a subaru cross-trek or pickup truck, ok, but if you are driving through that kind of snow, your stinger is a snow-plow now. The idea that you need 205s or whatever is a bit ridiculous. He'll be fine with 245 in the winter, that's what I had as my winter setup on my BMW 4 series, through snow, ice and every possible iteration. I'm on 225s right now for winter, but that's just because it's what I had lying around.

I didn't say goto 205s just not 255s like were mentioned. 225s are fine for winter, depth of snow doesn't matter, to be honest i mostly run narrow for ice, slush, and backed up drainage which I encounter far more than straight up snow where hydroplaning is a bigger concern.

 

[RM7]

I didn't say goto 205s just not 255s like were mentioned. 225s are fine for winter, depth of snow doesn't matter, to be honest i mostly run narrow for ice, slush, and backed up drainage which I encounter far more than straight up snow where hydroplaning is a bigger concern.

Where were 255s mentioned for winter? But even then, it's not like 255s will somehow cause you winter problems, in fact, in many winter situations, you'll be better off. Narrower may penetrate snow, but in many other conditions you'll notice that it's easy to overpower narrow or break traction, which is what you want to avoid at all costs. Yes, wider will hydroplane easier, but 255 winter or AS tires don't hydroplane easily. You need something like a summer racing tire to hydroplane bad. My PS4S is much better in the rain/wet than my Supercar 3s were, in 305 size. Those are out at the extreme. I just don't see any real benefit from going narrower other than to have easily rotatable (square) setups and so on. At these widths, the tire itself is more important than 225 vs 255 IME.

 

[RogueIV]

Where were 255s mentioned for winter? But even then, it's not like 255s will somehow cause you winter problems, in fact, in many winter situations, you'll be better off. Narrower may penetrate snow, but in many other conditions you'll notice that it's easy to overpower narrow or break traction, which is what you want to avoid at all costs. Yes, wider will hydroplane easier, but 255 winter or AS tires don't hydroplane easily. You need something like a summer racing tire to hydroplane bad. My PS4S is much better in the rain/wet than my Supercar 3s were, in 305 size. Those are out at the extreme. I just don't see any real benefit from going narrower other than to have easily rotatable (square) setups and so on. At these widths, the tire itself is more important than 225 vs 255 IME.

Here is where 255 was mentioned (I never said it was you that mentioned it):

What offset do you have? And I imagine you run 255/40/18? How do you like it in comparison to the OEM staggered setup?

Personally I don't see a benefit to running wider tires than stock in winter either. But yes quality tires for the conditions make the most difference. Traction hasn't been a problem for me in winter with my 235 square setup. Although, I did want 225s they weren't available at the time.

 

[RM7]

Here is where 255 was mentioned (I never said it was you that mentioned it):


Personally I don't see a benefit to running wider tires than stock in winter either. But yes quality tires for the conditions make the most difference. Traction hasn't been a problem for me in winter with my 235 square setup. Although, I did want 225s they weren't available at the time.

Fair enough.

 

[Transmetal]

I just took my winters off but I was running these. 18x8 Genesis g70 wheels with the dark grey finish. Had 225 45 18 Blizzaks on all 4.

 

[902_Stinger]

I just took my winters off but I was running these. 18x8 Genesis g70 wheels with the dark grey finish. Had 225 45 18 Blizzaks on all 4.

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Looks nice! With the 225 in the rear, is there a noticeable gap between wheel/fender? And curious if it looks skinny from the rear...

 

[Transmetal]

Looks nice! With the 225 in the rear, is there a noticeable gap between wheel/fender? And curious if it looks skinny from the rear...

I don't remember it too looking bad. I was more concerned about having the extra traction and more meat on the tires for winter, obviously with Blizzaks it has almost an "off-road" look with the tread but I wasn't concerned about looks. I actually think it looks better than having the stock 19s. The wheels are a really nice match for the Pantera metal. The 18s do look a bit small on there but if they made the same wheels in a stock 19" staggered configuration I'd go with them over the stock wheels.

 

[G-873668]

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I went with Blizzaks mounted on 18” fastwheels FC04s in titanium colour... I think it looks ok... I was thinking the titanium colour best matched the dark chrome accents...

What other winter setups do we have out there?

Hey so if I was to get used tires with rims what would the total size be to opt of to the 18 all around

 

[SRV]

I just took my winters off but I was running these. 18x8 Genesis g70 wheels with the dark grey finish. Had 225 45 18 Blizzaks on all 4.

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The rims looks perfect with Panthera - nice job!