Stinger discontinued in 2022

[westcoastGT]

I remember reading about the long delays in custom Audi orders years ago. I can't imagine how painful the wait must be with the chip shortage. I don't have the patience to wait a year for anything. A few years back I custom ordered a Wilson Combat 1911 and was given a 6 month lead time--I didn't even make it 30 days before cancelling my order and buying something else. I'm just way too impatient.

Ya I cant believe I've had the patience either BUT its because I'm still enjoying my Stinger !! It will be over a year since I plunked down my deposit on the SQ8 by the time I get it in May , assuming that doesn't get pushed ( again !!!! ).......................

 

[n8hegr8]

what do you guys think of the ford mustang mach e? is tough to keep an EV charged, i mean like, do you have to buy special equipment and keep it at your house or garage to charge every 379 miles? i dont know how EV's work. I wonder, are they better made vehicles than regular ones? i mean, we get almost 300 miles to a tank of gas, and an EV can only do 379? that doesnt impress me enough to switch. im all about not having to buy gas anymore, but do you pay it in others ways anyway with an EV, like electricity or something. And do the service departments even know how to work on electric vehicles? No more oil changes? or coolant? or gasoline...

 

[vipeboy2000]

what do you guys think of the ford mustang mach e? is tough to keep an EV charged, i mean like, do you have to buy special equipment and keep it at your house or garage to charge every 379 miles? i dont know how EV's work. I wonder, are they better made vehicles than regular ones? i mean, we get almost 300 miles to a tank of gas, and an EV can only do 379? that doesnt impress me enough to switch. im all about not having to buy gas anymore, but do you pay it in others ways anyway with an EV, like electricity or something. And do the service departments even know how to work on electric vehicles? No more oil changes? or coolant? or gasoline...

I like EV's and next vehicle will probably 99% be one. For the foreseeable future, we probably will keep the stinger or another ICE vehicle for specific scenarios/hobby car/ etc but an EV will cover 99% of everyday driving.. We enjoy driving and go out for pleasure drives often but even then usually never exceed 200 miles a day. Most EV's now will do at least 200 miles easily and generally, most people's commute a day is probably less than 50-70 miles round trip which will fully top back up overnight even on 120v household plug without needing a 240v outlet for faster charging, and if needed for trips or a one off scenario, hit up a dc fast charger and get 80% in 25 -30 min.
You will probably need an electrician to install a 240v (dryer style) outlet so that you can charge up your ev overnight after a full depletion but i know many people who get by without doing that just fine.

quality wise, that's just as up in the air as any other vehicle, dependent on manufacturer etc, less mechanical things to go wrong but now electronics/computers are more crucial... (modern gas cars are just as dependent on computers now so not really much of a specific con to EV's)

The new kia EV6 had to charge for about 7 hours to do a 2,880 mile trip.. yes, a gas car could do it much faster but how many people are actually doing that vs, taking time to eat/ rest etc for a long trip like that. You'd probably stop to eat at least 4 times in a 42 hour road trip and take a couple naps... which would be at least 4-5 hours if you took short stops + about an 2hours for 10 fuel stops if you refueled every 300 miles or so.

The one place that still needs improvement is obviously there needs to be massive expansion of fast charger networks to accommodate more and more ev's and in locations that are more rural.

but for a daily driver, I think it's pretty perfect.. almost no maintenance, other than tires, coolant change every 100k for the climate control/battery temp, possible cv axle replacements on high torque models in 100k miles..

Will I ever only have an EV? probably not, once we are in the EV world, i'll probably pick up a v8 sporty car of some sort as a hobby... love those v8 noises

 

[Transmetal]

How reliable are the batteries? Cuz here in MN, it can be -50 with the wind chill. How well is a battery holding up in that weather cuz regular car batteries struggle in those temps. Also wondering about the long-term. I have a 2001 Ford Lightning (a real one) if I want, I can refresh/rebuild the motor, or I can go full coyote with a blower. What happens when your battery dies or no longer wants to hold a charge? Is it like my cellphone, I have to go get another battery or do I have to get a whole new car?

 

[vipeboy2000]

How reliable are the batteries? Cuz here in MN, it can be -50 with the wind chill. How well is a battery holding up in that weather cuz regular car batteries struggle in those temps. Also wondering about the long-term. I have a 2001 Ford Lightning (a real one) if I want, I can refresh/rebuild the motor, or I can go full coyote with a blower. What happens when your battery dies or no longer wants to hold a charge? Is it like my cellphone, I have to go get another battery or do I have to get a whole new car?

Yea, that's still a pain point too, at -4 degrees Fahrenheit you basically have half the range vs above freezing... you will need to keep it plugged in when not using the car to prewarm the battery and the cabin... But battery tech is still evolving and getting better.. and full battery replacements will be probably upwards of 10k USD but it's not super common to need to do that even upwards of 150k miles generally... though that's to be seen , usually it's a couple grand or so to replace a few of the bad cells of the pack.. A bunch of my coworkers have had their teslas now for several years so i'm trying to keep in the know on how it's been treating them..

 

[Transmetal]

Yea, that's still a pain point too, at -4 degrees Fahrenheit you basically have half the range vs above freezing... you will need to keep it plugged in when not using the car to prewarm the battery and the cabin... But battery tech is still evolving and getting better.. and full battery replacements will be probably upwards of 10k USD but it's not super common to need to do that even upwards of 150k miles generally... though that's to be seen , usually it's a couple grand or so to replace a few of the bad cells of the pack.. A bunch of my coworkers have had their teslas now for several years so i'm trying to keep in the know on how it's been treating them..

Hmmmmmm, that's interesting. So here, you'd have to be charging the hell outta your car in winter, which sometimes lasts 6 months. Which would mean higher electrical costs.

 

[Kamauxx]

Here's a good look at the Ioniq-5 and EV-6 (non GT).

 

[Brandondrums]

Just read an article today that said they have no plans to kill the stinger according some American Kia VP and that it's sales were exactly where they want em to be.

I read the same article. I think all the rumors' are just free press. I remember when the 2nd BMW Z4 was released and BMW spent 2 years saying "there won't be an M version of this car". I remember for YEARS reading stories about the BRZ/FRS twins were going to be discontinued because Toyota signed a deal with BMW and sales were slow. I remember YEARS of reading that the Dodge Challenger would be discontinued shortly after it was released due to Fiat's buyout of dodge and slow sales.

What happened in each of those cases? Increased sales and renewed models.

Sry, I'm going to keep on editing. So this is a "marketing strategy" that's being used more and more. I watch a show that they basically pretended wasn't going to be renewed (that is very popular and would be insane to cancel) to drum up hype when they announced it was moving to the paid streaming service they were launching. It's annoying, but until a formal announcement hits I think the Stinger's fate is to be a marketing tool that's clearly gotten the brand tons of attention.

 

[n8hegr8]

I read the same article. I think all the rumors' are just free press. I remember when the 2nd BMW Z4 was released and BMW spent 2 years saying "there won't be an M version of this car". I remember for YEARS reading stories about the BRZ/FRS twins were going to be discontinued because Toyota signed a deal with BMW and sales were slow. I remember YEARS of reading that the Dodge Challenger would be discontinued shortly after it was released due to Fiat's buyout of dodge and slow sales.

What happened in each of those cases? Increased sales and renewed models.

Sry, I'm going to keep on editing. So this is a "marketing strategy" that's being used more and more. I watch a show that they basically pretended wasn't going to be renewed (that is very popular and would be insane to cancel) to drum up hype when they announced it was moving to the paid streaming service they were launching. It's annoying, but until a formal announcement hits I think the Stinger's fate is to be a marketing tool that's clearly gotten the brand tons of attention.

i could something like there will only be one version of the stinger happening.
im curious, how many stingers vs k5 sell. which vehicle does kia sell more of?

 

[MerlintheMad]

i could something like there will only be one version of the stinger happening.
im curious, how many stingers vs k5 sell. which vehicle does kia sell more of?

Not even close. In less than a full year of sales, the K5 already has well over 112K cars sold. The stinger has sold 52,368 cars (2017 - 2021) as of August this year.

 

[vipeboy2000]

i could something like there will only be one version of the stinger happening.
im curious, how many stingers vs k5 sell. which vehicle does kia sell more of?

basically... they sell 7 k5's for 1 stinger sold.... heck.. they sell 2 carnivals for every stinger sold.. lol

 

[Kamauxx]

i could something like there will only be one version of the stinger happening.
im curious, how many stingers vs k5 sell. which vehicle does kia sell more of?

Stinger is the worst selling vehicle in Kia's lineup.

Here's specifics:

 

[Transmetal]

Not even close. In less than a full year of sales, the K5 already has well over 112K cars sold. The stinger has sold 52,368 cars (2017 - 2021) as of August this year.

I haven't looked into it but I wonder what's the price of the K5 vs the Stinger? I bought my 2020 awd base gt for 36k otd in July of 2020, before the vaccine was out and before the floor fell out on new/used cars. Unless it's a base model K5, I'm sure the loaded ones couldn't be much cheaper than what I paid for my Stinger at the time. Besides price and maybe the styling that one might prefer over another, why would somebody buy a K5 over the Stinger?

 

[Devin]

Stinger is the worst selling vehicle in Kia's lineup.

Here's specifics:

Good, it should be.

 

[Kamauxx]

I haven't looked into it but I wonder what's the price of the K5 vs the Stinger? I bought my 2020 awd base gt for 36k otd in July of 2020, before the vaccine was out and before the floor fell out on new/used cars. Unless it's a base model K5, I'm sure the loaded ones couldn't be much cheaper than what I paid for my Stinger at the time. Besides price and maybe the styling that one might prefer over another, why would somebody buy a K5 over the Stinger?

The K5 starts in the low 20s and tops out in the low 30s. Top trim vs top trim they will have be nearly identically appointed. The K5 at it's top trim is appx $20k less than a top trim Stinger. The K5 has better fuel economy and is a little bit bigger.

 

[MerlintheMad]

why would somebody buy a K5 over the Stinger?

Price and no interest in a performance car.

 

[Devin]

The K5 starts in the low 20s and tops out in the low 30s. Top trim vs top trim they will have be nearly identically appointed. The K5 at it's top trim is appx $25k less than a top trim Stinger. The K5 has better fuel economy and is a little bit bigger.

You forgetting about the longitudinal engine thing?

 

[Kamauxx]

You forgetting about the longitudinal engine thing?

He asked why someone WOULD choose the K5 over the Stinger, so drivetrain didn't factor into the post.

 

[stoopid]

The K5 is a compelling vehicle for someone not looking for anything 'sporty' but wants the bump in power. They certainly nailed the design IMO, attractive and modern.

Month to month it's down but up overall for the year. Hype for the new Optima/K5 might be wearing off, or they're having a tough time keeping enough of them in stock. Either way, it outsells the Soul which surprises me.

 

[n8hegr8]

i like the k5 design. its a sharp looking car on the road.