Sorry, but how is an OTS tune "perfect"? They can be very good, but custom tuning will always (if you have a competent tuner) net you better results. Each car and situation is different. Otherwise, every car from the factory would run the same times and produce the same #'s on a dyno...they don't. It's nice to have a tuner willing to make adjustments depending on mods, fuel, elevation, temps, etc.
Proof is in the pudding. 11.29 without going extreme.
I think you're missing his point. It's good that your car can do what it does. Nobody is debating that. What's trying to be said, is that a one-size-fits-all tune...sometimes doesn't fit. It works for your car. Clearly it can get up and go. Not arguing that. That's good. Doesn't mean it will work for everyone to the same degree or that some people won't run into issues with it, and if they do...then what? Different cars have slight differences from the factory, people run differing amounts and types of mods...and that's the downfall of canned tunes. Been there before, and it's more than a little annoying. The solution is to go get retuned, or run another map and...that's done how? You're still mailing an ECU back and forth and stuck with the stock tune in the meantime, which, depending on your existing mods, may or may not run so well on the car.
There’s no mailing back and forth and I can’t wait in a month or 2 for everyone here to eat there words >.> honestly some people want to have there ?ns answed and us lap3 folk would like to answer there ?ns im still ticked off that another vendor is spreading misinformation on our post also , cars from the factory are not dyno tested and tuned for there stock ecu . They all get the same with the same parameters. Now if we where shooting for 600 hp with the tiny turbos yeh that would require Percision tuning but this tune is not brand new it’s been around for a while and built on . It’s just finally available in the states.
Eat what words? The only complaint most seem to have is 2k for a canned tune, which isn't an unreasonable complaint, especially if you've already got some form of tuning option on the car already. Haven't said anything bad about the tune itself yet. I just want more than 2 people saying it's the best thing ever, and more specifically something from what it can do on 93, to justify the cost of it. Lap3 advertises their Stage 1.5 making 410-430 WHP at a boost level comparable to Map 2, which is also advertised to make similar numbers by BMS. HP for HP I'd expect a good ECU tune to be faster than a piggyback running similar boost and with similar peak dyno numbers since it has more control over more ECU parameters. My reservation is how much faster, and how well it can adjust for mods.
1) How is there no mailing back and forth? Is OBD2 flashing going to be available?
To my knowledge I do know a ton of hp is restricted at the primary cats the hole is small so it will depend on what mods you have but the tune is dynamic just like the stock tune. If you have no mods you’ll be on the low end if you do have mods you’ll be on the high end it is not custom tethered to what mods you have But some require certain mods in order to function right because if you don’t you could cause damage like running 20+ psi without meth the car will not like it . As for the price I spent less money on this tune then I did on torks tune and his I had to mail back 2-3 times and that’s when I quit on it. Once my ecu arrives I’ll do some draggys and get more results because that’s the only thing that’s going to speak out is results. We only have a handful of people that have the tune atm more are on the way so if you have any ?ns we wil one glad to answer to the best of our ability but until we do more testing ourselves we can only theory craft off the couple out there atm. All I can say is it’s looking super promising and no issues.
I mean we’re giving you guys information but you guys seem to want a personal tuner that adjust your tunes every day. I’ll just rephrase what I say earlier, if a tuner/device needs to be constantly adjusted, I’d question their abilities.
Post a log if you don’t mind. Cheers
Well, congrats to Lap3 for creating the world's first cookie-cutter tune that is perfect for all vehicles out there.
I've had tunes on mustangs, Audis and BMWs for over 10 years. Every single one has been revised after I sent logs to the tuner (or the tuner did it live on their own dyno).
You should of been on here when it was the Tork fan boys vs the JB4 fan boys...you would of fit right in. Regardless I'm happy your going to be $2,000 guinea pig cause I was thinking about a trading in the Stinger in the near future but if this is something worthwhile I may keep for longer. Funny thing is your posting all this ishhh and you don't even have the tune yet? If I didn't know any better I'd think Lap3 sent you a gift basket after you sent them that 2 grand.
I have the tune. No need to worry about overboosting in winter time. In March I’ll be going to the track and posting times. Stay..... tuned.
Look forward to it!
