K&N drop in filter (3.3TT)

[Thang]

Got my filters in yesterday and installed them today. Took less than 5 min. Annoying that I had to remove the structural braces to make enough room to take the intake cover off.

More importantly I need to know where to add my stickers to gain that extra 50 HP...
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Any suggestions?

What lb-ft of torque did you torque them back to? The structural braces

 

[Kazz]

Got my filters in yesterday and installed them today. Took less than 5 min. Annoying that I had to remove the structural braces to make enough room to take the intake cover off.

More importantly I need to know where to add my stickers to gain that extra 50 HP...
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Any suggestions?

They used to have a big STOP sign sticker trying to warn any mechanics not to take out and toss the K&N filter like it was a standard paper filter. That'd go right on the intake boxes. Those smaller ones might look good on the strut braces - or they might be overkill. LOL

 

[Kamauxx]

They still have the "don't throw these filters away" stickers.

 

[Kazz]

Cool!

 

[iclicku]

What lb-ft of torque did you torque them back to? The structural braces

I KNEW one of you would ask this question and my scientific answer is "just winged it."

Flame on!

 

[robz32]

Place the stickers on the braces

 

[iclicku]

Place the stickers on the braces

I think that's a great place. That's what I'll do then.

 

[iclicku]

Did throttle response change at all?

Didn't notice any increase in throttle response or sound. Regardless if there's a claimed HP increase of 5-10 HP, I doubt it's something I would notice. So why even bother? Cuz stickerz.
But seriously, it's definitely something that will benefit those planning on deleting cats/mufflers/etc.

 

[Kia Stinger]

More importantly I need to know where to add my stickers to gain that extra 50 HP...
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Any suggestions?

Rear side windows.

 

[iclicku]

Here you go...



I feel like a ricer now!

 

[JohnG7]

That's not bad, I'll probably place my stickers similar.

Last night I pulled the brace and opened one filter housing to see what's inside the box. The supply inlet ducting looks smaller than what I expected to find, granted there are 2 filter housings splitting our air demands. Is this going to be a bottleneck?

I had plans to install k&n filters as soon as possible, they have always lasted the life of my cars/trucks/bikes. The KIA filters I pulled looked to be good quality with plenty surface, do we think these new k&n's will allow more air? I don't have mine to compare side by side yet, hopefully next few days. The inlet duct is fairly small though, I'll look for possible ways to open it a bit.

 

[iclicku]

That's not bad, I'll probably place my stickers similar.

Last night I pulled the brace and opened one filter housing to see what's inside the box. The supply inlet ducting looks smaller than what I expected to find, granted there are 2 filter housings splitting our air demands. Is this going to be a bottleneck?

I had plans to install k&n filters as soon as possible, they have always lasted the life of my cars/trucks/bikes. The KIA filters I pulled looked to be good quality with plenty surface, do we think these new k&n's will allow more air? I don't have mine to compare side by side yet, hopefully next few days. The inlet duct is fairly small though, I'll look for possible ways to open it a bit.

You must have missed it, buy a couple posts ago Kamauxx showed a side by side with the stock and KN filter. The KN is substantially thinner and less restrictive than the thicker paper filter. So I don't doubt one bit there is more airflow going in. It's just not going to make much of a difference on its own. You'll have to continue modding to see the additions to HP/TQ.

 

[JohnG7]

Nah, I didn't miss it. And I've compared K&N before as I swapped them on my others. What I meant was in THIS service I cannot see how this K&N will flow more- the air supply is small (in comparison to my others-from memory). I will not regret the purchase in any way, but I doubt if we removed the filter there would be much difference(in air flow). I believe the airbox inlet will prove to be more limiting than the resistance of the filter (any filter). I could well be wrong, but the cone filter system may allow more air (albeit hot if open to engine compartment like some). If I'm not mistaken the dual K&N cone setup would still be somewhat limited by this same opening to each box.
I'm not an engineer, nor am I worried that this will not allow enough air when demanded, but I see this as more of a bottleneck than the filter. And I may well be wrong, was just an observation I made in a somewhat dimly lit garage at mid nite.

 

[iclicku]

Nah, I didn't miss it. And I've compared K&N before as I swapped them on my others. What I meant was in THIS service I cannot see how this K&N will flow more- the air supply is small (in comparison to my others-from memory). I will not regret the purchase in any way, but I doubt if we removed the filter there would be much difference. I believe the airbox inlet will prove to be more limiting than the resistance of the filter (any filter). I could well be wrong, but the cone filter system may allow more air (albeit hot if open to engine compartment like some). If I'm not mistaken the dual K&N cone setup would still be somewhat limited by this same opening to each box.
I'm not an engineer, nor am I worried that this will not allow enough air when demanded, but I see this as more of a bottleneck than the filter. And I may well be wrong, was just an observation I made in a somewhat dimly lit garage at mid nite.

Oh I understand what you're trying to say now. Yeah I agree that either way you go about it, there is some restriction there.
That's where a shop like Tork MS comes it with their custom parts

 

[JohnG7]

I'm always kinda looking for the small things that might enhance the big things. I have often just polished the casting slag from inlets, and opened slightly intake openings, and even ported heads on everything from motocross bikes to 911s. Maybe I have been lucky but so far I haven't harmed any engines from port work(yet). Knowing any gains (if any) will be small, but I know I'm doing something as I learn more about that engine.
I took pics last night of the internal opening of the airbox, but didn't take any measurements. I will measure when the filters arrive, might even look into what improvements could be made on the inlet piping. I'm not concerned that this is too restrictive, my GT2 runs like a bat outa hell now. BUT I want MORE!!! Will probably order a Borla cat back this week too, geez the exhaust is restrictive (I've looked at that too). We have a hell of a starting platform with these Stingers, I love it!

 

[iclicku]

I'm always kinda looking for the small things that might enhance the big things. I have often just polished the casting slag from inlets, and opened slightly intake openings, and even ported heads on everything from motocross bikes to 911s. Maybe I have been lucky but so far I haven't harmed any engines from port work(yet). Knowing any gains (if any) will be small, but I know I'm doing something as I learn more about that engine.
I took pics last night of the internal opening of the airbox, but didn't take any measurements. I will measure when the filters arrive, might even look into what improvements could be made on the inlet piping. I'm not concerned that this is too restrictive, my GT2 runs like a bat outa hell now. BUT I want MORE!!! Will probably order a Borla cat back this week too, geez the exhaust is restrictive (I've looked at that too). We have a hell of a starting platform with these Stingers, I love it!

I don't know if you have seen Tork's videos on Youtube but they say how restrictive the exhuast/cats are. Just removing saw significant gains.

 

[JohnG7]

Deleted- getting too far off OPs topic

 

[GTB]

Does anyone have any comparison pictures?

 

[iclicku]

Does anyone have any comparison pictures?

Just one page back...

 

[GTB]

Just one page back...

I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure he said that was the wrong filter...