Uhhh...New Eibach Springs Install

[Ozstung]

3. Somethings wrong.

I've had Eibach springs on my RWD Gt and even before it settled It wasn't that high. Mine have been on 14 months.

Silly question I know your car shows GT2 wheels but your car is definitely not the 2.0 is it?

 

[MerlintheMad]

here's a before pic. it definitely is lower now in front, just nowhere near as low as the rear.

Nothing doing. If anything, the before and after pics of the front look exactly alike. Maybe in person there is a difference, but it doesn't show up in those two pics.

 

[twelvexes]

I have a GT AWD. Not a 2.0. The front is definitely lower. About a 1”. The rear is down at least 2”. Something seems off for sure.

 

[MerlintheMad]

I have a GT AWD. Not a 2.0. The front is definitely lower. About a 1”. The rear is down at least 2”. Something seems off for sure.

I can clearly see that your rear tires are much farther up in the wheel wells, i.e. the car is lower in the rear. The front tires don't look any different than stock clearance to me.

 

[twelvexes]

I can clearly see that your rear tires are much farther up in the wheel wells, i.e. the car is lower in the rear. The front tires don't look any different than stock clearance to me.

I agree with you, but I posted a stock pic earlier in this thread that shows the front is definitely lower now. But the back is WAY/TOO low.

 

[twelvexes]

I measured and the front is currently sitting 5/8” higher than the rear. The difference doesn’t look as glaring as it did initially. Is there anything that can be done to level it out completely?

 

[SKStinger]

It still looks nice and way better than stock! If it still bothers you after a few months you can always change springs or swap for coils.

Have you tried removing the spare tire and all the gear that goes with it? That might lift the rear a bit and look a bit more level.

 

[twelvexes]

It still looks nice and way better than stock! If it still bothers you after a few months you can always change springs or swap for coils.

Have you tried removing the spare tire and all the gear that goes with it? That might lift the rear a bit and look a bit more level.

Thx! I agree, it does look way better than stock. I haven't tried removing the spare tire, but I'm not sure that would help too much? When I took this pic I had just over 1/4 tank of gas and was worried that the difference from front to back would be even worse when I filled up the tank but I did that this morning and it's still a 5/8" difference.

 

[BlueByYouGT]

I don't think the problem was with your install.

The problem is that the Stinger comes from the factory with reverse rake. It's just harder to notice because when stock the gap is so large. The aftermarket springs are lowering the car an equal amount in the front and rear. The spring manufacturers need to make their front springs lower the car more than the rear.

Look at the reverse rake on stock cars and you'll understand the real problem with your car's rake.

 

[twelvexes]

I don't think the problem was with your install.

The problem is that the Stinger comes from the factory with reverse rake. It's just harder to notice because when stock the gap is so large. The aftermarket springs are lowering the car an equal amount in the front and rear. The spring manufacturers need to make their front springs lower the car more than the rear.

Look at the reverse rake on stock cars and you'll understand the real problem with your car's rake.

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Interesting. I really wish I would have measured when stock before I did the springs.

 

[SKStinger]

I don't think the problem was with your install.

The problem is that the Stinger comes from the factory with reverse rake. It's just harder to notice because when stock the gap is so large. The aftermarket springs are lowering the car an equal amount in the front and rear. The spring manufacturers need to make their front springs lower the car more than the rear.

Look at the reverse rake on stock cars and you'll understand the real problem with your car's rake.

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It is strange though as my drop is opposite. It now has a rake instead and I had the same reverse rake when stock.

 

[BlueByYouGT]

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That's stock height, right? You definitely had reverse rake prior to the spring installation.

 

[BlueByYouGT]

It is strange though as my drop is opposite. It now has a rake instead and I had the same reverse rake when stock.

That' stumps me. Stock tire sizes?

 

[SKStinger]

That' stumps me. Stock tire sizes?

Yep those are the stock tires.

 

[twelvexes]

That's stock height, right? You definitely had reverse rake prior to the spring installation.

Yes it is.

 

[MerlintheMad]

I measured and the front is currently sitting 5/8” higher than the rear. The difference doesn’t look as glaring as it did initially. Is there anything that can be done to level it out completely?
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I can't see any issue in the pics. Both wheel wells look equally filled to my eyes.

 

[MerlintheMad]

I don't think the problem was with your install.

The problem is that the Stinger comes from the factory with reverse rake. It's just harder to notice because when stock the gap is so large. The aftermarket springs are lowering the car an equal amount in the front and rear. The spring manufacturers need to make their front springs lower the car more than the rear.

Look at the reverse rake on stock cars and you'll understand the real problem with your car's rake.

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Are you offering these as examples of "reverse rake"? Because each one of these has the rear slightly higher than the front, along the bottom edge.

 

[SKStinger]

Are you offering these as examples of "reverse rake"? Because each one of these has the rear slightly higher than the front, along the bottom edge.

Top of the wheel wells. If you measure from ground to fender the stock suspension is higher in the front (reverse rake).

 

[MerlintheMad]

Top of the wheel wells. If you measure from ground to fender the stock suspension is higher in the front (reverse rake).

I wondered if that was what you were illustrating. So, now I have to point out that this gap is deliberately wider in front. Lowering that gap, and then engaging in brisk cornering will bring the tire in contact with the wheel well. Most of us won't experience that because we don't push the car hard enough. But believe it: if you bring the front tires right up into the wheel wells so that the tread is practically even with the top lip, then turn the wheels while "hooning" around, you'll get contact.

The way to judge rake is by how the body sits with the ground. And the stock car has positive rake. The RWD has even slightly more positive rake than the AWD.

 

[NS_Stinger]

I wondered if that was what you were illustrating. So, now I have to point out that this gap is deliberately wider in front. Lowering that gap, and then engaging in brisk cornering will bring the tire in contact with the wheel well. Most of us won't experience that because we don't push the car hard enough. But believe it: if you bring the front tires right up into the wheel wells so that the tread is practically even with the top lip, then turn the wheels while "hooning" around, you'll get contact.

The way to judge rake is by how the body sits with the ground. And the stock car has positive rake. The RWD has even slightly more positive rake than the AWD.

Fender contact is definitely a possibility under hard cornering with a lower stance, but keep in mind that when you lower the car you also get more negative camber and that means a less likelihood of fender contact up front. You need to be a lot lower than stock height or to be running a much wider wheel package for that to become a real issue.