Tires melting

[cpeckvt]

#1...The brake pads are the problem. I changed the rotors and the pads in 2018 when it was a "thing" and it helped, but I believe since then it's been decided the pads were/are the problem. #2...Owning such high horsepower cars and stating that the tires are melting from the brakes is an odd thing. I mean, the mechanics of brakes melting tires doesn't really work unless there's some serious oddity with the Stinger. #3... I learn something new everyday!

Yes big horsepower cars that NEVER had brake issues. So how the f*ck would i know what is going on with this junk? 3 sets of rotors, new pads and still issues. I am done here, going to give the car to my kid for her Bday and buy the wife I4m50

 

[Volfy]

Either way, whatever it is, stock rotors and EBC pads are going BYE BYE for high performance setup. And yes, i do high speed runs and have to brake allot, I drive the car hard, same as I have been doing for 35 years. But I drive it very little, it is my wife's car, and she does not get on it.

Begs the question why you chose EBC Redstuff. With how you run that car, you should be running at the very least Yellowstuff.

Kia corporate and Kia dealers have been shooting themselves in the foot by changing the rotors only, and not addressing the real problem of the OEM brake pads leaving deposits on rotors. This has been beat to death by now. I'm dumbfounded there are still folks who either don't know, or refuse to believe, what is going on.


As for the brakes getting hot enough to melt the tires... uh, NVM.

 

[cpeckvt]

Begs the question why you chose EBC Redstuff. With how you run that car, you should be running at the very least Yellowstuff.

Kia corporate and Kia dealers have been shooting themselves in the foot by changing the rotors only, and not addressing the real problem of the OEM brake pads leaving deposits on rotors. This has been beat to death by now. I'm dumbfounded there are still folks who either don't know, or refuse to believe, what is going on.


As for the brakes getting hot enough to melt the tires... uh, NVM.

actually just spoke with a brake expert, rotors can get hot enough to heat the wheels and increase tire pressure to a point where the tires can blister, warp or blow out. Rubber on the driveway could be from the tire blistering, which on inspection, tire is blistering.

 

[NS_Stinger]

 

[NS_Stinger]

Your damn tires aren't melting from rotor heat, I've been on car forums for well over 20 years and this has to be the most ridculous claims I've heard yet. If your tires are blistering and failing its from running the car hard in warm weather not from your damn rotor heat.

 

[Volfy]

actually just spoke with a brake expert, rotors can get hot enough to heat the wheels and increase tire pressure to a point where the tires can blister, warp or blow out. Rubber on the driveway could be from the tire blistering, which on inspection, tire is blistering.

For sure brakes can get hot enough to make the rotor glow bright red! And smokin'! I have seen it myself when traveling in Colorado at the foot of Mt Evans. Driver apparently didn't know he was not supposed to ride the brake all the way down.

However, if you manage to heat your wheels enough "blister, warp or blow out" your tires from everyday driving before arriving back on your driveway... you sir are likely not long for this world.

 

[cpeckvt]

Your damn tires aren't melting from rotor heat, I've been on car forums for well over 20 years and this has to be the most ridculous claims I've heard yet. If your tires are blistering and failing its from running the car hard in warm weather not from your damn rotor heat.

Well, if that was the case, SMART GUY, then the rear tires would be in pieces. It actually makes allot of sense that the excessive brake heat is increasing the tire pressure, which in turn creates the horrible vibration, which only occurs after allot of brake use and only on the front of the car. WOW, amazes me how many rocket scientists are in this group. I think I am done with this group, I will leave the car issues to the pros, WHICH ARE NOT IN THE GROUP.

 

[Kodiack]

I would think if your rotors ever got hot enough to transfer that much heat to the tire through the rim ( possible but very unlikely unless your caliper pistons completely seize) it would most certainly completely fry and destroy your wheel bearings as well and the heat to your brake fluid would most likely make your brakes completely fail. I myself just replaced my pads to powerstop Z36 and all was good again.

 

[NS_Stinger]

Well, if that was the case, SMART GUY, then the rear tires would be in pieces. It actually makes allot of sense that the excessive brake heat is increasing the tire pressure, which in turn creates the horrible vibration, which only occurs after allot of brake use and only on the front of the car. WOW, amazes me how many rocket scientists are in this group. I think I am done with this group, I will leave the car issues to the pros, WHICH ARE NOT IN THE GROUP.

You don't need to be a rocket scientist to know what you're suggesting is off the wall, but you're welcome to post around at other forums and find a single person who will support your theory. Don't get me wrong, if you were running hot laps at Laguna Seca until you're rotors were glowing and sparking maybe I'd considering what youre saying is possible, but I figure if you have that kind of heat transfering to your tires your OEM rubber brake lines would've melted and you'd have bigger problems than a little mark on a driveway.

 

[NYBIOMED]

...jeez guys, dont scare him off, im interested in his mods that gets him to 600hp

 

[Volfy]

...jeez guys, dont scare him off, im interested in his mods that gets him to 600hp

Not sure how believable it'd be, but the entertainment value is sure to be as good as this thread has been so far.

 

[cpeckvt]

...jeez guys, dont scare him off, im interested in his mods that gets him to 600hp

 

[cpeckvt]

really guys, with the 2.0?
Stock 22 Stinger GT2
368 hp & 376 torque running 13-14lbs of boost, verified by BurgerTuning

my Stinger GT2:
ARK downpipe
Burger Intake
Burger Big mount intercooler
MBRP S4708304 - 2022 Kia Stinger 3.3L T304 SS Cat-Back Exhaust- Dual Split Rear Quad Outlet Uses Factory Bezels
Burger Oil Catch Can
Denso 5346 IKH24 "1 Step" High-Performance Spark Plug
JB4 Map 4 running 22lbs of boost
JB4 EWG Wires
JB4 Fuel wires
FF set to 100
Race Fuel

Just on boost, 8lbs over stock, that is roughly 160HP. Then add up all the other mods,
maybe not 600HP, but pretty damn close.

O ya, I forgot about these,
MBRP resonators and carbon fiber tip extensions. NO HP gains, but make it sound really good.

 

[BertBert2019GT]

Well, if that was the case, SMART GUY, then the rear tires would be in pieces. It actually makes allot of sense that the excessive brake heat is increasing the tire pressure, which in turn creates the horrible vibration, which only occurs after allot of brake use and only on the front of the car. WOW, amazes me how many rocket scientists are in this group. I think I am done with this group, I will leave the car issues to the pros, WHICH ARE NOT IN THE GROUP.

i feel compelled to say that as someone who knows a thing or two about this car and may or may not needlessly troll folks like you on other platforms ... I am intimidated by the collective knowledge and experience on this forum. anyone with half a brain (source: me) would recognize it. best of luck to you!

 

[BertBert2019GT]

really guys, with the 2.0?
Stock 22 Stinger GT2
368 hp & 376 torque running 13-14lbs of boost, verified by BurgerTuning

my Stinger GT2:
ARK downpipe
Burger Intake
Burger Big mount intercooler
MBRP S4708304 - 2022 Kia Stinger 3.3L T304 SS Cat-Back Exhaust- Dual Split Rear Quad Outlet Uses Factory Bezels
Burger Oil Catch Can
Denso 5346 IKH24 "1 Step" High-Performance Spark Plug
JB4 Map 4 running 22lbs of boost
JB4 EWG Wires
JB4 Fuel wires
FF set to 100
Race Fuel

Just on boost, 8lbs over stock, that is roughly 160HP. Then add up all the other mods,
maybe not 600HP, but pretty damn close.

O ya, I forgot about these,
MBRP resonators and carbon fiber tip extensions. NO HP gains, but make it sound really good.

race fuel! lol

 

[cpeckvt]

i feel compelled to say that as someone who knows a thing or two about this car and may or may not needlessly troll folks like you on other platforms ... I am intimidated by the collective knowledge and experience on this forum. anyone with half a brain (source: me) would recognize it. best of luck to you!

I knew nothing about this car before we bought it, but I am learning allot. My issue is basically being called STUPID for asking a question. Rubber on the driveway, ya, it is concerning. Horrible vibration coming from the brakes, big concern. 3 sets of rotors, big concern. So instead of calling me stupid, users should help. New rotors, pads and tires should fix the issue. Maybe the rotors are not bad, maybe it is the pads, tires, who really knows, we are going to find out this week.

 

[cpeckvt]

race fuel! lol

Ya race fuel. See this my point. Guy who says he knows everything, then laughs at race fuel. WOW, VP Racing Fuels in Fort Lauderdale been using them for 15 years.

 

[BertBert2019GT]

Ya race fuel. See this my point. Guy who says he knows everything, then laughs at race fuel. WOW, VP Racing Fuels in Fort Lauderdale been using them for 15 years.

what octane? i'm dying to know more

i said i know a thing or two. this car is more than two things

i think a bunch of people you interact with like your money and will tell you whatever the f*ck you want to hear bro

your tires aren't melting. that's not a thing

any imaginative way you're making it a thing the fact remains your brake fluid would boil and brakes would fail before anything (soft oem brake lines homie)

USDM pads were selected because americans like quiet brakes. the end. and yeah they leave residue and cause pulsing but this would disapate immidiately with any track-like aggressive braking required to heat things up anywhere close to the temperatures needed for tire issues. and yeah pressure goes up in wheels no matter what friction = heat = gasses expand. you're not doing anything in this car to cause rubber failure

i think someone already hit the nail on the head. your tires got hot and sticky and left a kiss on the pavement. chill

without a HPFP or port injection, valve timing delete, and a flash -- you're nowhere near 600hp fella. you got some pretty bolt ons thats about it

 

[Volfy]

It might not seem that way to you, but folks here are trying to help. Problem is that you asked questions by first forming theories that you basically regard as facts. Then when folks here point out that they are far from facts and suggest you might consider rethinking your theories, you get all offended and start thrashing out, firing shots at everybody that chimed in here in your thread, as though we are all a pack of means hyenas out to get you.

I have yet to see anybody here fault somebody simply for not knowing. OTOH, not too many have the patience to calm an angry kid whining in his own thread about not being taken seriously, when he is so obviously short on knowledge, humility and fortitude.

It is exceedingly difficult to help someone that absolutely refuses to listen.

 

[BertBert2019GT]

It might not seem that way to you, but folks here are trying to help. Problem is that you asked questions by first forming theories that you basically regard as facts. Then when folks here point out that they are far from facts and suggest you might consider rethinking your theories, you get all offended and start thrashing out, firing shots at everybody that chimed in here in your thread, as though we are all a pack of means hyenas out to get you.

I have yet to see anybody here fault somebody simply for not knowing. OTOH, not too many have the patience to calm an angry kid whining in his own thread about not being taken seriously, when he is so obviously short on knowledge, humility and fortitude.

It is exceedingly difficult to help someone that absolutely refuses to listen.

shshshsh we're waiting for what octane race fuel he uses!