Time for tires..looking these, thoughts?

I'm going square when I replace the stock tires. Michelin PS4S for me. Best 300tw tires on the market and with a square setup I get to utilize the full 30K mile warranty.
 
Agree. I also have a Staggered setup and with 6500 miles on them, they still have a lot of life left in them.

Just had my tires balanced at 7000 miles. Still 9/32 left on all 4 tires. I believe the 20" come with 11/32 when purchased.
 
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The "W" puts them out of consideration for me (I admit, it's an irrational conceit sort of thing: I want tires that could go on a Koenigsegg Agera:p). And my tire guys said that you get what you pay for, i.e. in their opinion the Firestone does not have the same over all durability as the Michelin.
I want the "Y" because as soon as you get a nail and have to put in a patch, the rating drops down one letter.
 
I want the "Y" because as soon as you get a nail and have to put in a patch, the rating drops down one letter.
Could you expound on this a bit? I've never heard of this before.
 
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I want the "Y" because as soon as you get a nail and have to put in a patch, the rating drops down one letter.
Not necessarily true. Some maintain the rating depending on the size/location(s) of the repair, some reduce the rating, and some void the speed rating altogether. Michelin maintains the speed rating depending on number and location or the repairs. Bridgestone completely voids the speed rating regardless of the number and location of repairs. The manufacturers state many different things regarding this. No rule of thumb per se.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=225
 
Mich Sport AS3+
OEM size 19" awd
Have 17k on them, I'm very happy
Had the Conti's on my 2014 & 2011 Bens E350 4matics
Also very happy
 
I've run the General Gmax's on my previous G sedan twice (using plus sizes) and they performed extremely well in both wet and dry. Tread life was excellent, but a little on the louder side (but OEM michelins are much louder however). I have the contis on my amg suv and love them - dirt in Sequoia, snow in Mammoth, dry in LA - always performed well. just my $.02
 
That really is odd. It really makes me wonder why they put so little value on the tire here. Maybe the Firestone branding has something to do with it?

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I know I'm getting in on this late however, manufacturers will start with a low price to get the items sold and in the hands of the consumer. Once folks see how good they are, they write reviews and tell others about them, which drives demand for the product, then they will increase the price.
 
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I looked at the Firestones a while back for my Subaru. I think the consensus was - if you're doing mostly dry, summer driving, they're quite good. But they aren't that good for track or wet, unlike the Michelins, which can handle some track use, and are great in the wet. And their ultimate limit is less than the Michelins. But that's going by memory from a few years ago.
 
And Michelins are at least twice as expensive.
 
I know I'm getting in on this late however, manufacturers will start with a low price to get the items sold and in the hands of the consumer. Once folks see how good they are, they write reviews and tell others about them, which drives demand for the product, then they will increase the price.
This tire has been in the US since around May 2016 and about a year before that in Japan. I hope that a price increase is not imminent! This tire and price point has been great for what I do. I think the Firestone name will keep the price low, but that is just speculation on my part. Comparable Bridgestones are more expensive and this fills a void at Firestone. Ironically, I had my alignment and balance today and was surprised that the location manager was not aware that it was a "re-branded" Potenza Adrenalin RE-003.
Bridgestone Potenza Adrenalin RE003
 
A few weeks ago I replaced my OEM rear tires after they lasted me 21k miles. I decided to go with the Michelin PS4S. I don’t regret it. Great tire, plenty of stick and it holds pressure really well. Haven’t had to touch it since the tire shop installed them
 
If looking at summer tires, the 4S is purportedly an outstanding tire. Not sure about tread life, but I wouldn't think it very high.

I've had Pirelli PZero and Continental ExtremeContact DW (not DWS) on my Camaro SS. The Pirelli were terrible in the wet, sticky in the dry, and wore very quickly. They also got louder with mileage. The Continentals were quieter, marginally, had far superior grip in the wet, excellent dry traction, but steering response was slower due to a more compliant sidewall. I cannot comment from experience on the latest offerings from Continental for summer tires, but the ExtremeContact Sport is supposedly an excellent successor to the DW.

As for Nitto: 20 years ago, a friend of mine put Nitto 555 Exit tires on his car, a 1991 Acura Legend with Fittipaldi Tubolare wheels, 235mm tire width. At the time, they were amazing. I can't say how the latest versions are, but they seemed impressive back in the day.

All-Season Tires:

I put Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ on the Stinger for financial and convenience reasons instead of a dedicated snow set. I will reevaluate after this next winter.

For the majority of the type of driving I'm now able to do (mostly with my daughter to and from daycare), these tires are sufficient -- we don't go nuts when driving together or as a family when my wife is with us. I should state that my daughter is only one year old and effectively in a 5-pt harness racing seat, lol. Her safety trumps my own inner teenager.

When driving alone, I have put the tires through the paces and noticed mild noise feedback when at the limits of adhesion. The noise is muted and not high-pitched. Could use more sound input before breakaway.

In terms of regular, non-spirited driving, the tires are not quiet unless the road is freshly paved. They are louder than the stock Pilot Sport 4 tires. Traction in the wet is excellent. I had one hydroplaning experience at much less than speed limit that was unsettling, but the roads were getting fairly saturated here during a freak storm. Not sure that any tire would have fared better. Other than that episode, the tires have performed tip-top.

Our winter this past year was mild, but the tires were adequate for the amount of driving over snow that I had to do. They are obviously not snow tires, so keep that in mind.

Other considerations included the Continental ExtremeContact DWS06. It was a very difficult choice between these two tires. I might give the Contis a try in the future since I hear that road noise and comfort are better than the A/S 3+. I've generally prioritized performance over comfort, but we'll see.
 
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A few weeks ago I replaced my OEM rear tires after they lasted me 21k miles. I decided to go with the Michelin PS4S. I don’t regret it. Great tire, plenty of stick and it holds pressure really well. Haven’t had to touch it since the tire shop installed them
Were you on OE Michelin Pilot Sport 4? Or A/S?
 
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I had the stock pilot sport 4 on.
21K miles on Michelin Pilot Sport. Excellent! I have almost 22K miles on my car and c. 5K were on Nitto Motivo A/S. I am not going to get another 4K out of my rear Michelins. In fact, they'll be off in the next couple of weeks, because I need good tires for a long road trip late in August.
 
21K miles on Michelin Pilot Sport. Excellent! I have almost 22K miles on my car and c. 5K were on Nitto Motivo A/S. I am not going to get another 4K out of my rear Michelins. In fact, they'll be off in the next couple of weeks, because I need good tires for a long road trip late in August.

What are you planning to purchase for the rears?
 
What are you planning to purchase for the rears?
Michelin PS4S, or the same PS4 that came on it. Depends on availability. I like the consistency of keeping all four tires the exact same, and the PS4S has a differing tread pattern, iirc. Nothing that would cause issues, handling or wear, etc. But it just kind of annoys me to have different sidewall designations, knowing that they are not a perfectly matched set of four.
 
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