FRONT BRAKE VIBRATION

[WHITEGT]

Hello from Canada.

I just wanted to ask if you also suffer from the dreaded front brake vibrations? From what is discussed on this site is the euro spec brakes don't have the issue

is that true?

thank you

 

[MerlintheMad]

True. The European spec pads are noisy and give off more dust, but they do not vibrate. There is now a good selection of options for Stinger brakes; and I try and stay on top of this subject, in case I ever need to upgrade. So far, everything is still fine at 40K plus miles.

 

[narsnail]

Same deal in Canada, think it's the same pad as US. Had all my rotors replaced under warranty last summer, then swapped the front pads to Hawk HPS 5.0. I probably wouldn't go to such an aggressive pad next time, since the front grabs way more than the rear but there is no more vibration.

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Couple links for buying in Canada, Park Auto Motorsports is also a good website.

 

[Goatwidcoat]

There are a few of us who have still had brakes replaced under warranty. One owner has even had the issue return within 600 miles!

While we seem to have it much less in the UK, it can still be a problem. One person in the UK Facebook Group has the issue and there are none even in the country to replace with currently with a month to wait until they come back in stock!

We have very very few third party options here too unfortunately.

 

[JezH]

Hi all, my car has suffered with the vibration issue from about 1000 miles after delivery Sept 2019. Kia would not accept it was their problem they either said there is nothing wrong or the discs are warped which they are not. I've done 21K miles now so any hope of them changing their mind has evaporated.

The pads were replaced by my mechanic with standard but not Kia branded pads and it was fine for a bit but has returned to the point that driving it is now quite unpleasant and going through the cleanup process is tedious to say the least.

I started looking into getting the StopTech discs and pads from a UK supplier but they are on massive back order so have given up with that. Now trying to track down some EBC Yellowstuff pads and either their standard or USR discs. As and when fitted I will let you know.

 

[D.J.]

I used these.

Over 20,000kms of smooth braking so far

Stinger Brake Pads Replacement

I've just approached 46K km and the front pads are due for a replacement soon... The dealer quoted me a price for the front pads at $900 (offered a discount from $1,300). I haven't had any issues with the OEM Brembo pads but based on other threads, I'm looking to replace them with aftermarket...

stingerforum.org

My cars RIDICULOUS brake rotor history.

My car's brake rotor history:
1. car came with rotors (OEM) - new car
2. first replacement at 10,320kms - all 4 rotors replaced (warranty approved)
3. second replacement at 23,774kms - all 4 rotors replaced (warranty approved)
4. third replacement at 39,905kms - all 4 rotors replaced (warranty approved)
5. fourth replacement at 59,706kms - all 4 rotors replaced (warranty approved)

Installed aftermarket brake pads at 60k
Now at 80k, still perfectly smooth.

 

[G-570960]

Hello from Canada.

I just wanted to ask if you also suffer from the dreaded front brake vibrations? From what is discussed on this site is the euro spec brakes don't have the issue

is that true?

thank you

2018 European Stinger here... Yes, they do. My brake vibrate a lot. Already replaced then under warranty. Stayed good for a couple of weeks. Then started again...

 

[RM7]

2018 European Stinger here... Yes, they do. My brake vibrate a lot. Already replaced then under warranty. Stayed good for a couple of weeks. Then started again...

There's really no way they could still be putting "bad" pads on there.

Cars do this due to frequency of vibration. The frequency of the pads and rotor is unfortunately the same, so small normal vibrations of the pads are resonating and causing the rotor to vibrate back and forth with the pads. This is a common design issue in the automotive world. One of my previous cars had weights on the brake pads from the factory to eliminate the vibrations. It's a bit of a hard issue to totally avoid in the design phase, knowing exactly the frequency that all parts will vibrate at, hence adding weights to the pads like they did on that car. Changing the rotor, pads or caliper to a different model may fix the issue, but may not, because they may or may not vibrate at a different frequency. In some other automotive applications, they'll add stick-on weights to the caliper or other spots.

I can't believe there hasn't been a class-action lawsuit on this yet. Companies time and time again show they won't act unless threatened like this, plenty of BMW stories and lawsuits won, but this is way way past "bad pads".

 

[Snicklefritz]

but this is way way past "bad pads".

is it though? how would a class action focus on the actionable cause? my stingers have not done the vibration thing. some on here have gone aftermarket and had it anyway. it sounds like your saying individual vehicles and not a design fault of Kia with the Stinger.

 

[RM7]

is it though? how would a class action focus on the actionable cause? my stingers have not done the vibration thing. some on here have gone aftermarket and had it anyway. it sounds like your saying individual vehicles and not a design fault of Kia with the Stinger.

Just look at how widespread it is.

 

[Snicklefritz]

Just look at how widespread it is.

but what is 'it' if it isn't pads? what is causing the vibrations interface between pads and discs, when it isn't even a majority of vehicles afflicted with vibrating brakes?

 

[D.J.]

but what is 'it' if it isn't pads? what is causing the vibrations interface between pads and discs, when it isn't even a majority of vehicles afflicted with vibrating brakes?

iT was indeed the pads for me.

 

[Snicklefritz]

iT was indeed the pads for me.

and for many others. I don't understand @RM7's assertion, "but this is way way past "bad pads". I'm trying to understand what the class action could possibly be for if not pads, if that doesn't address what is 'way past bad pads.'

 

[stoopid]

There's a 50-something PAGE discussion on this.

FAQ: Vibration under braking: warped rotors? NO!

The following is an FAQ about why your Stinger is experiencing vibration under braking. I’ve seen a lot of talk on the Facebook groups about this issue, and a lot of misinformation, and I’ve gotten tired of typing the same thing over and over again, so here’s a comprehensive FAQ that I can link...

stingerforum.org

For most Stinger owners with the issue, replacing with quality aftermarket (non Kia OE) pads and properly bedding them in resolved the issue. Permanently. It has for me, as well.

The Kia OE pads leave deposits and this creates an uneven rotor surface over time. Resurfacing or replacing the rotors is only a temporary fix as the same Kia OE pads will eventually leave uneven deposits again. Replacing with aftermarket pads, in the most common cases of vibration issues, resolves the problem.

 

[Silverfox]

I’m in the UK and had this issue. The discs and pads were replace under warranty but it was back within a short time. It is the only reason I didn’t keep the Stinger.

 

[Snicklefritz]

^^^what do you drive now?

I’m in the UK and had this issue. The discs and pads were replace under warranty but it was back within a short time. It is the only reason I didn’t keep the Stinger.

 

[Daniel @ K8 Stinger Store]

The front brake shaking/pulsing is a common issue. I highly recommend our K8SS Elite Sport Ceramic Brake Pads (click HERE to view) as a replacement for your factory brake pads. Our pads offer low dust, no squeal, and they will eliminate the vibrating issues you are experiencing.

 

[ddavis1982]

Hello from Canada.

I just wanted to ask if you also suffer from the dreaded front brake vibrations? From what is discussed on this site is the euro spec brakes don't have the issue

is that true?

thank you

I am finding it is actually an issue with the design of the car itself and the rotors kia installed dont help. Why? Air. There is not enough air getting to the rotors and brakes. I live in California, where it gets quite hot in the summers and I noticed as well my brakes/rotors get super hot on regular driving in the summer time. Now where does this come into play in with the rotors you ask? No there not warped, they just can't clean themselves and the brake deposits collect, solidify causing an uneven surface, and shudder here we come.

I have tried 3 different types of brakes (stock, low dust ceramics and a non kia reccomended brand) every time the dust accumulates on the rotors within 2k miles and the shudders return. I did not try the euro brakes though as I live in the US.

I can fix it by re-bedding the brakes by a 3 set of getting to 80 and stomping on em till it basically cleans the rotor. 1-2k miles later, here we go again. All this explanation leads to this, you minimally need to replace the rotors with slotted rotors so they shed the dust, the stock ones just won't do it because of the defect of the car.

This is my suspicion after countless trial and error, and with haggling with Kia. There service manager himself stated that they can replace the brakes and rotors however the problem will persist. His reccomendation was an outside shop that will put on slotted/drilled rotors. I have been on my slotted and drilled rotors now for 3k miles, smoothe as butter, and still in the Cali summer. I didn't go with his shop reccomendation but got the r1 slotted and drilled rotors and replaced them myself, wasn't all that hard to do with a YouTube video. It's a beautiful car, don't ditch her for this ez fix. But don't believe people when they say the rotors are fine, there not.