Why the superlative? My Stinger is over 40K miles on the OE brakes. Most people don't complain about shuddering brakes. The ones that do complain are visible to everyone. If a conference of Stinger owners was gathered and the question asked, "Who here has had shuddering, pulsating brakes?" A bunch of hands would go up, but nowhere near all of them, much less "every single" one.
Makes sense!
My apologies for the exaggerations and blowing things out of proportion. But it is safe to say that this is a pretty common issue found in Stingers from North America... or rather those not from Europe with the European spec pads/rotors... My brake issues started at 3000 miles and took another 3000 miles and 5 repairs to finally get resolved. I drive pretty slowly and stable/safe so it certainly wasn't due to me beating on my car... many of my buddies have owned previously heavy and high powered cars who never experienced such problems in their rides...
All of your posts are about brakes not working. But you haven't taken any proactive measures to solve the problem. Why? Is it a "stand", a "principle of the thing"? Because I would never put up with this for as long as you have: neither have most of those who suffer with this issue. I've followed all of the brake threads since this issue came up (came to my awareness): knowing that at any point my car could begin to manifest the problems amply described by you and so many others. But there is no way that I would expect Kia to take care of this problem: they do not need to and are not obligated to do anything more than work with you for the first 12K miles; after that, you're on your own. Get some decent pads and spiff rotors and don't look back.
Why the hyperbole? You're obviously angry and out of patience. But, "poorly designed brakes?" Really? Brembo. The rotors are good. The pads are the common denominator here; and really, it's only in front; I think that I've read two maybe three cases on here of shuddering coming through your butt, i.e. the seat, indicating rear pad deposits. Just swap out the damn pads and move on! It's a fallen world. Kia says up front in the US warranty: 12K miles on brakes. After that the replacement is on you, even if you lease and turn the car back in. So, either do something to enjoy the ride, or keep complaining. The choice is all up to you and you alone.
I am on a lot of forums.. particularly bmw and audi as we own a couple bmw's and were looking at audi's extensively and just a search for "brake shudder" or judder etc and there are surprisingly lots of posts there as well on very low mile new cars and the response is the same.. brake pad deposits..
This is absolutely correct! This has just as much to do with driving style as it does with the pad material.
I completely changed how I drove and it still happened. Frustrating. Used the paddle shifters and downshifted at every stop
Did you consistently change after starting over fresh? Or change midway into the problem? Changing braking style habits has to be one hard discipline. Lapse just a few times and it would build up (no pun intended), and take longer but still manifest as an accumulative effect.
Very consistently. Back to the good old days of stick shift. however once or twice I was forced to brake hard during interstate traffic. That probably would have been enough. Just have to get new pads and rotors. But better pads this time.
I've slammed on the brakes a couple of times, but I never had to sit and hold the pedal down after coming to a stop (or rather, almost stop); that is apparently a key factor in getting deposits; the pad melts material onto the super heated rotor surface. But if you keep going after coming almost to a stop, then that is in effect like bedding the pads.
Its not on how you slow down its on how you stay stopped. You cant stay stopped in one spot, you have to inch forward. Dont let the pads stay in one spot on the rotors. Thats what causes the deposits.
Break this down for me please?
He means with HOT rotors/pads.
Only HOT rotors can melt the pads and create deposits. It does help, if you know that you just heated up your rotors, to not pull right up behind the vehicle in front (actually that is a good idea not to do that under any circumstances): that way you can just ease off the brake pedal enough to creep, without losing your brake lights, and probably without annoying anyone behind too much. I'm guessing that a smooth "smear" of brake pad deposit is going to work out later, rather than a "ridge" of melted pad in one sticky spot.
ah okay! understood!He means with HOT rotors/pads.
Well when your car is parked, your brakes are NOT engaged, there is a pawl that engages in the trans that locks the gears then you put it in park. So thats your answer for that.
No this is not bad.
