Turn signals on the HUD please!

[westcoastGT]

Don’t assume as I wasn’t directing at you. Don’t intend owning a BMW either. I am however very conversant with EFIS and HUD design and integration being a commercial pilot, and do know that if you don’t just keep the necessary info on the display it can cause interpretation issues.

My point was that if you cram very little bit of yours and others preferences as to what’s displayed then the cost will escalate the price and the risk of distraction increases due to over supply of information.
The stinger screen is too small to include everything and the creation of a larger HUD will raise the purchase price. No one is right or wrong here it’s just the fact you have to be realistic.

The thing that peeves me the most is the comments directed at moderators which is uncalled for. You do all realise Kia Stinger, the administrator, does not own a Stinger either yet you would not make those comments to him. Manaz was selected on his experience as a moderator on another car forum, not the fact he does or doesn’t own a Stinger. As a moderator we have the ability to uphold the rules of the forum without question yet many still try tell us how to be a moderator. If anyone else thinks they can do it better then by all means apply for the position. Other wise everyone should obey the rules and we will not have any issues.
Personal attacks and trolling is not acceptable in this forum and it only serves to make members leave the forum. As stated it only takes a one worm to make the Apple rotten, set the precedence , be nice to one another even if you disagree.

I agree with some of what you say and as Member Merlin pointed out a few weeks back ...."if you make a controversial post , expect a controversial response " which I believe is the premise of this little dust up .........
no one should be above the rules here and I dont believe its only mods that need to watch over the flock .........but please be careful throwing stones .....................in the past you have been a relatively flagrant rule abuser

 

[Manaz]

I agree with some of what you say and as Member Merlin pointed out a few weeks back ...."if you make a controversial post , expect a controversial response " which I believe is the premise of this little dust up .........

I disagree with that sentiment. The mature way to deal with a controversial post is to try to SS-de-escalate. To (using a sporting analogy), "play the ball, not the player".

You'll note I disagreed with the point here, and didn't try to discredit either yourself or Merlin. Imagine how boring it would be if we all agreed all the time!

no one should be above the rules here

Totally agree. 100%.

and I dont believe its only mods that need to watch over the flock

Agree again. This why the "Report" option is present on every post, to afford every member the opportunity to highlight behavior that they are concerned about. Despite what people may think, moderators don't go looking for moderation opportunities - we're forum members too, and while we may stumble across things in our general forum usage, almost all moderation effort occurs as a result of a member who is not a moderator reporting a post and highlighting their concern.

.........but please be careful throwing stones .....................in the past you have been a relatively flagrant rule abuser

If this is the case, highlight the posts by reporting them. Unless you can back this point up with evidence, it just looks like a baseless accusation that really should not be made of any member, let alone a member of the moderation team who volunteers his/her time to help the community, and whom Sal has judged worthy of being a moderator.

 

[westcoastGT]

I disagree with that sentiment. The mature way to deal with a controversial post is to try to SS-de-escalate. To (using a sporting analogy), "play the ball, not the player".

You'll note I disagreed with the point here, and didn't try to discredit either yourself or Merlin. Imagine how boring it would be if we all agreed all the time!



Totally agree. 100%.



Agree again. This why the "Report" option is present on every post, to afford every member the opportunity to highlight behavior that they are concerned about. Despite what people may think, moderators don't go looking for moderation opportunities - we're forum members too, and while we may stumble across things in our general forum usage, almost all moderation effort occurs as a result of a member who is not a moderator reporting a post and highlighting their concern.



If this is the case, highlight the posts by reporting them. Unless you can back this point up with evidence, it just looks like a baseless accusation that really should not be made of any member, let alone a member of the moderation team who volunteers his/her time to help the community, and whom Sal has judged worthy of being a moderator.

Thanks Manaz , I've said my peace and my words are 100% factual and easily proven , but what does this serve . I think we have spent more than enough time on the issue and should get back to regular programming !

 

[Manaz]

I think we have spend more than enough time on the issue and should get back to regular programming !

Agree.

So, what extra info do we really think could go into the HUD? Or, to take the line I took, what do we think should NOT go into the HUD?

My belief is that info like song title and artist has NO place in a HUD, ever, because it's not critical to the ability to operate the vehicle or to make decisions regarding safe driving. As I've alluded to, I'm a fan of simple, consistent data presentation in the HUD.

• Speed, absolutely belongs. Constantly glancing down at the speedo to avoid being booked for 5km/h over the limit in a 100km/h zone (this is a thing in Victoria for instance) is nuts.
• Speed warnings, I think a good idea.
• Brake warning - yes.
• Navigation aids - I don't mind, reduces the inclination to glance at the centre screen when driving to make sure you're taking the correct turn or know how far to go before you need to turn. Of course, audio cues are given by most navigation systems as well, but sometimes that's not quite enough for absolute confidence.
• Direction (compass bearing) I don't think belongs on a road car (we rarely need to know what direction we're travelling in as a compass bearing when on public roads (or even race-tracks). Sure, off-roading far from the beaten track, I get it, but the Stinger's not going to do that.
• Indicator indication (is that the right term?) - unsure on this one. I can generally tell if my indicators are on in a number of ways - at 6'2" tall, I've been able to set the Stinger seating position up with a clear view of the instrument cluster without issue (but this may not be the same for all people, I recognise that we all sit differently in our cars), I can feel for the indicator stalk, I can hear the "clicking" sound generally as well (I'm not a frequent listener to loud music in the car).

I'm of course happy to see counter-suggestions or disagreement with those suggestions!

 

[Manaz]

A related question - does anyone else find the Stinger HUD to be a bit dim? I found the Commodore VXR HUD to be much brighter and easier to read in bright daylight. All my driving in the Stinger thus far has been during the day, does it dim further at night?

 

[NoVAGT2]

My belief is that info like song title and artist has NO place in a HUD

Pretty sure radio station information flashes up there briefly when a new station is selected.

I'd like to see the ability for the user to select what to show, perhaps limiting the number of pieces of information shown at one time.

Cheers

 

[ShannonC]

A related question - does anyone else find the Stinger HUD to be a bit dim? I found the Commodore VXR HUD to be much brighter and easier to read in bright daylight. All my driving in the Stinger thus far has been during the day, does it dim further at night?

Brightness is adjustable through a scale of 1 - 20. I have mine set on 15 which suits me. Can't say I've noticed a great difference between day/night.

 

[ShannonC]

I'd like to see the ability for the user to select what to show, perhaps limiting the number of pieces of information shown at one time.

Cheers

It already has that ability but restricted to the presets.

 

[Manaz]

Brightness is adjustable through a scale of 1 - 20. I have mine set on 15 which suits me. Can't say I've noticed a great difference between day/night.

Yes, I found it wasn't particularly bright at even the brightest setting, on several cars I've driven. Not a show-stopper, but just something I recall when driving the car.

 

[SteveCo]

A related question - does anyone else find the Stinger HUD to be a bit dim? I found the Commodore VXR HUD to be much brighter and easier to read in bright daylight. All my driving in the Stinger thus far has been during the day, does it dim further at night?

I find it is bright and clear - not dim at all during full daylight. I believe it dims at night along with the rest of the instrument/displays, and quite comfortable for viewing. i don't recall what I set for a brightness level, but I remember it's not maxed.

If you are wearing sunglasses during the day, I suggest you try taking them off and check the HUD brightness them - if I wear polarized sunglasses it 'appears' to dim to the point it's almost non-visible.

 

[Ozstung]

.....don't recall the last time I remember viewing the HUD.....I have found a parking ticket receipt sitting neatly over the HUD out of sight

 

[Aarvix]

I'm 6'4" and suffer from the "turn signals are obscured by my steering wheel" syndrome.

Honestly I think they'd be a bit distracting if they showed up in the HUD all the time, but I'd love it if they appeared after, say, 30 seconds.

I too listen to loud music and never hear the clicking. I've taken to using the momentary blinker (5 flashes) to avoid looking like an idiot with my blinker permanently on.

 

[Sime]

All id like to see there is what gear we are in.

 

[P22Tyler]

There's way too much info there IMHO. Might as well just project the entire dash up there and be done with it.

You don't necessarily have to have all the info up there at once, because I agree that would be a lot. Make it so that we can scroll through the info we want up there. I definitely think that at least things like the gear and turn signals should be added.

 

[P22Tyler]

I would LOOOOVE it if I could get turn signals on the hud. Being a tall guy, the steering wheel blocks the blinker lights most of the time, and if I'm listening to music often times I can't tell if they're on without reaching for the lever.

Don't know if those are linked systems, but it'd sure be nice to have.

I have this issue as well, and don't feel like moving my steering wheel up more. One way they could get around this is a simple thing that all the VW's I've owned had: a little light next to the side mirrors that shows when your blinker is on. Obviously that's not as nice as having the info right in front of you on the windshield, but it would help a little bit IMO.

 

[G70LEbyAdoom]

Im a couple years late to the party here, but yall missed a very obvious solution, one that GM does (at least on its cadillac's anyway)

Multiple pages.

The HUD doesnt need all the info up at once.
- Leave the current setup the way it is (Though turn signals would be nice)
- Page 2 can display whats playing on any media & speed
- page 3 can display directions and speed
- Page 4 could be the "race screen" with an RPM bar as the main thing (as that is the more important than actual speed is on a track) with a small speed number somewhere
- page 5 can be Instant MPG number and speed
- page 6 can be whichever two things you want

obviously, you would want to be able to set whichever page you want as the default, and the order that they are displayed in should be customizable as well.

the turning indicators could probably be displayed on every page as well, as they would only be small arrows that only appeared when the indicators are on.

oh, and the HUD is clearly already able to display most main colors, as we have access to Orange/green/white already, and school zones already show up when using navigation in Yellow, so more color choices would be nice.

This solution would singlehandedly solve Every single one of yalls complaints, while still not being overly complicated, considering I just stole every single one of these features directly from GM's HUD, and that one was so simple to use, my tech illiterate grandmother literally figured it out in about 5 minutes the one time she drove my old CTS V sport.