Drag/Acceleration Weight of the worlds fastest Stinger....

[Kamauxx]

We may have less sales then him... Yet out tuned cars are still faster lol...

So ill let that sink in

A business owner who's more concerned with records than revenue...there's a recipe for success.

We have 3 top six spots?

I'm guessing there's another list on FB or reddit or somesuch floating around, because....

1. 11.86 @ 117.16, @Tonkabob, 7.67 @ 93.53, 1.84
GT2 AWD, Tork ECU tune, Ark catback, JT intake, Ultimate FMIC, SSR midpipe, wheels. E20

2. 11.94 @ 118.11, @STINGER, 7.77 @ 92.99, 1.89
RWD, JB4 map 3, WMI, VT Snorkel, K&N Drop ins, High flow CAT, JunBL mid EVC cat back

3. 11.974 @117.69, @Angel, 7.79@93.39, 1.88
AWD, JB4 Map 5, AP Intakes, SSR Downpipes, SSR Muffler Deletes, Tork OCC.

4. 11.975 @ 118.98, @GetStung 7.825 @ 93.67, 1.87
AWD, JB4 Map8, WMI, Secondary CAT bypass, Borla catback, Injen intake 93 octane + E85, E30

5. 11.98 @118.96, @TorkMe, 7.84 @94.03, 1.95
GT RWD, Tork ECU tune, Tork intake, muffler delete, no cats, fmic. 92 Octane

6. 12.022 @ 117.42, @Stinger33 7.82 @ 92.85, 1.94
RWD, JB4 map6, JT intake, JT exhaust, Throttle body, GFB BOV

7. 12.05 @ 116.58, @Kato_the_kia_stinger 7.87 @93.02, 1.93
AWD, JB4 map8, K&N intake, VT snorkel, WMI, 93 octane

8. 12.07 @ 116.73, @Crewdawg130, 7.85 @92.65, 1.90
GT2 RWD, JB4 map3, intake, Ultimate HFC primary and secondary, FMIC, Drag radials. 93 octane

9. 12.09 @ 114.83, Miguel P, 7.80 @ 91.61, 1.86
GT2 AWD, Tork ECU Stage 1, CX CAI, CX FMIC, muffler delete.

10. 12.13 @116.78, Jesse P turbokits.com, 7.89@ 91.51, 1.87
AWD, Lap3 pro mode 2 (old mode 3), Intake, FMIC, no cats, 93 octane.

 

[Doel]

A business owner who's more concerned with records than revenue...there's a recipe for success.

I honestly think the world would be a better place if business owners were more concerned with quality rather than profits, but I realize capitalism doesn't function that way. Maybe he's making enough money through his business or he's independently wealthy already so he doesn't have to worry about making bank on Stinger tunes. You have to admit it is pretty impressive he has the ET Stinger record, even though few have his tune.

 

[Sales@Tork]

A business owner who's more concerned with records than revenue...there's a recipe for success.


It hasnt failed us yet Im sure if we sold tunes for $400 we would sell them like hot cakes , And yes stated above we sell tones of parts and tunes for many other communities so selling thousands of stinger tunes would be nice yes, we are dependent on the stinger market alone.

 

[Kamauxx]

I honestly think the world would be a better place if business owners were more concerned with quality rather than profits

That would be great, except they would all be out of business most ricky-tick.

Maybe he's making enough money through his business or he's independently wealthy already so he doesn't have to worry about making bank on Stinger tunes.

Or people are turned off by the way they see him interacting with others and the slew of negative reviews posted about them around the interwebz.

You have to admit it is pretty impressive he has the ET Stinger record, even though few have his tune.

Absolutely! Now if only he hired a public relations/customer service professional to take over for his online presence. He'd be more successful.

 

[Sales@Tork]

A business owner who's more concerned with records than revenue...there's a recipe for success.




I'm guessing there's another list on FB or reddit or somesuch floating around, because....

1. 11.86 @ 117.16, @Tonkabob, 7.67 @ 93.53, 1.84
GT2 AWD, Tork ECU tune, Ark catback, JT intake, Ultimate FMIC, SSR midpipe, wheels. E20

2. 11.94 @ 118.11, @STINGER, 7.77 @ 92.99, 1.89
RWD, JB4 map 3, WMI, VT Snorkel, K&N Drop ins, High flow CAT, JunBL mid EVC cat back

3. 11.974 @117.69, @Angel, 7.79@93.39, 1.88
AWD, JB4 Map 5, AP Intakes, SSR Downpipes, SSR Muffler Deletes, Tork OCC.

4. 11.975 @ 118.98, @GetStung 7.825 @ 93.67, 1.87
AWD, JB4 Map8, WMI, Secondary CAT bypass, Borla catback, Injen intake 93 octane + E85, E30

5. 11.98 @118.96, @TorkMe, 7.84 @94.03, 1.95
GT RWD, Tork ECU tune, Tork intake, muffler delete, no cats, fmic. 92 Octane

6. 12.022 @ 117.42, @Stinger33 7.82 @ 92.85, 1.94
RWD, JB4 map6, JT intake, JT exhaust, Throttle body, GFB BOV

7. 12.05 @ 116.58, @Kato_the_kia_stinger 7.87 @93.02, 1.93
AWD, JB4 map8, K&N intake, VT snorkel, WMI, 93 octane

8. 12.07 @ 116.73, @Crewdawg130, 7.85 @92.65, 1.90
GT2 RWD, JB4 map3, intake, Ultimate HFC primary and secondary, FMIC, Drag radials. 93 octane

9. 12.09 @ 114.83, Miguel P, 7.80 @ 91.61, 1.86
GT2 AWD, Tork ECU Stage 1, CX CAI, CX FMIC, muffler delete.

10. 12.13 @116.78, Jesse P turbokits.com, 7.89@ 91.51, 1.87
AWD, Lap3 pro mode 2 (old mode 3), Intake, FMIC, no cats, 93 octane.

And Im sorry 3 of the top 9 S0 1/3rd of the fastest recorded stingers on here are our tunes.... Ill take that as a win in my book. We have "7" tunes sold according to you and 3 of the top 9 slots including 2 in the top 5 and the number 1 spot . Man just imagine if we sold "50" tunes.... I wonder if a piggyback would even be on the list....

 

[Kamauxx]

It hasnt failed us yet Im sure if we sold tunes for $400 we would sell them like hot cakes

supply and demand
/səˌplī ən dəˈmand/
phrase of supply

1. the amount of a commodity, product, or service available and the desire of buyers for it, considered as factors regulating its price.

In laymen's terms, if no one is buying your $900 tune maybe you should lower your price to a point that buyers are willing to pay. $900 ECU tune X zero sales = ZERO POINT ZERO dollars.

Having a product that's priced twice as high as your biggest competitor and then bragging about how he moves more product than you because his product is half the price of yours...honestly, I don't even know what to say to you. This is silly.

We have "7" tunes sold according to you

I didn't say that. I don't believe you've sold 7 tunes to Stinger customers (and I don't count your car as a sold tune).

Man just imagine if we sold "50" tunes.... I wonder if a piggyback would even be on the list....

Yes, imagine that. Or better yet, be a better business owner and find a way to entice more people to buy your product. No more imaginary scenarios necessary. Voila, consider yourself a graduate of pre-pre-remedial Jr Economics.

 

[Sales@Tork]

supply and demand
/səˌplī ən dəˈmand/
phrase of supply

1. the amount of a commodity, product, or service available and the desire of buyers for it, considered as factors regulating its price.

In laymen's terms, if no one is buying your $900 tune maybe you should lower your price to a point that buyers are willing to pay. $900 ECU tune X zero sales = ZERO POINT ZERO dollars.

Having a product that's priced twice as high as your biggest competitor and then bragging about how he moves more product than you because his product is half the price of yours...honestly, I don't even know what to say to you. This is silly.

The funny part is the people who purchase the JB4 and other piggyback systems damn near have more money in their car and run slower then a car with basic bolt ons and out tune....

 

[Kamauxx]

The funny part is the people who purchase the JB4 and other piggyback systems damn near have more money in their car and run slower then a car with basic bolt ons and out tune....

You really aren't comprehending any of this, are you?

 

[Sales@Tork]

You really aren't comprehending any of this, are you?

Clearly you arent lol You complained about less tune sales and price.. Yes we arent complaining (the company who sells them) and it is still cheaper to go out tune route then what the JB4 needs to even try and keep up...

 

[Kamauxx]

Clearly you arent lol You complained about less tune sales and price.. Yes we arent complaining (the company who sells them) and it is still cheaper to go out tune route then what the JB4 needs to even try and keep up...

Yes, you were complaining. Yesterday when you said it isn't fair that more people follow Terry's words than yours. *edit* Just realized it's your other Tork account that posted that. Maybe you haven't even seen it.

So, my experience and my word are worth nothing on this forum? I have to prove everything I do, yet Terry gets a pass on all the dumb shit he says?

My point, (posted earlier today) was that BMS has more support because they've moved more units. You have sold 2 tunes (as far as we know) so expecting to receive the same support from forum members as BMS does isn't realistic. To receive an equal amount of support from your customers you need to increase the number of people that you are serving (and of course keep them satisfied). That's the point of all of this.

 

[Terry@BMS]

We provide a lot of tunes for a lot of different cars. We're a fairly large company with 12+ full time employees and over 20 company owned development vehicles. We have a lot of happy customers over the 12+ years we've been doing this. And FWIW I'd like to think no BMS employee here would ever carry themselves as unprofessionally as "some of the other tuners" in this industry do.

Regarding "records" although in many cases JB4 cars hold world performance records that has never really been the core of our marketing. We're all about solid performance,reliability, customer support, continuous innovation, all at a reasonable price.

 

[StungBlueGT2]

And Im sorry 3 of the top 9 S0 1/3rd of the fastest recorded stingers on here are our tunes.... Ill take that as a win in my book. We have "7" tunes sold according to you and 3 of the top 9 slots including 2 in the top 5 and the number 1 spot . Man just imagine if we sold "50" tunes.... I wonder if a piggyback would even be on the list....

I know this is probably a waste of time because you don’t seem to listen or learn from anything more informed people tell you but I’ll try.

Fastest and quickest are NOT the same thing. Quickest=shortest time lapse. Fastest is a measurement for speed.

Tonka has the “quickest” ET, but is 6th “fastest” in the top 10, and Migel is 9th but probably isn’t even on the top 15 list because he is sooo much slower than everyone else. Hense my whole explanation earlier...

You do still have the 5th quickest ET, but 2nd fastest trap speed which is impressive, however it’s mainly because you have the RWD(+2mph) advantage.

And we all know why you have some of the quickest ETs because you already admitted that your only focus is 330’ and ETs to the point where you apparently “want Tonka to have slower trap speeds”

I hope you eventually realize that ETs are only HALF the 1/4m results, and trap speeds are actually more significant because they measure HP instead of just good launches & 60’ times.

Also, I limited my post to only two emojis & less than two pages just so it was easy enough for you guys to read...lol

 

[Tonkabob]

I know this is probably a waste of time because you don’t seem to listen or learn from anything more informed people tell you but I’ll try.

Fastest and quickest are NOT the same thing. Quickest=shortest time lapse. Fastest is a measurement for speed.

Tonka has the “quickest” ET, but is 6th “fastest” in the top 10, and Migel is 9th but probably isn’t even on the top 15 list because he is sooo much slower than everyone else. Hense my whole explanation earlier...

You do still have the 5th quickest ET, but 2nd fastest trap speed which is impressive, however it’s mainly because you have the RWD(+2mph) advantage.

And we all know why you have some of the quickest ETs because you already admitted that your only focus is 330’ and ETs to the point where you apparently “want Tonka to have slower trap speeds”

I hope you eventually realize that ETs are only HALF the 1/4m results, and trap speeds are actually more significant because they measure HP instead of just good launches & 60’ times.

Also, I limited my post to only two emojis & less than two pages just so it was easy enough for you guys to read...lol

You seem pretty hung up on traps. But you are making trap assumptions based off of a top ET list. Agree the RWDs probably run up to 2 MPH faster traps and the GT AWDs should run about 1 MPH faster than GT2s with the 100 lbs. weight savings.
Here is my slip top trap of 118.54, LC bogged so the ET is slow. fastest trap AWD GT2, Second fastest trap AWD, 3rd fastest trap overall. But of course we don't have a top trap list so other could have better times as well.

Weight matters - here is the fastest GT2 AWD JB4 car:

K. G. 12.406 @115mph Gt2 AWD ATCO (I,JB4,E,L DP){SBK}
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And a blast from the past winter dragy- 120.58 MPH. Only .15 slower than the 2 MPH advantaged RWD Terry Meth Mobile.

1. 11.58* @120.58, @Tonkabob, 7.50 @95.83, 1.82
GT2 AWD, Tork ECU tune, Ark catback, JT intake, Ultimate FMIC, SSR midpipe, wheels. E15 94 octane

2. 11.83* @119.61, @Get Stung, 7.70 @93.83, 1.89
AWD, JB4 Map5, Secondary CAT bypass, Borla catback, Injen intake 93 octane+ Boostane

3. 11.87* @ 118.29, @ScottyCole, 7.71 @93.25, 1.88
AWD, Lap3 Pro, K&N Intakes, UP HFC down/mid, Borla Catback, 93 octane + E85

4. 11.91* @120.73, @Terry@BMS, 7.82 @94.96, 2.03
GT RWD, JB4, BMS intake, Water/Methanol injection 50/50, Drag radials, wheels. 30% E85

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

You seem pretty hung up on traps. But you are making trap assumptions based off of a top ET list. Agree the RWDs probably run up to 2 MPH faster traps and the GT AWDs should run about 1 MPH faster than GT2s with the 100 lbs. weight savings.
Here is my slip top trap of 118.54, LC bogged so the ET is slow. fastest trap AWD GT2, Second fastest trap AWD, 3rd fastest trap overall. But of course we don't have a top trap list so other could have better times as well.

Weight matters - here is the fastest GT2 AWD JB4 car:

K. G. 12.406 @115mph Gt2 AWD ATCO (I,JB4,E,L DP){SBK}
​

And a blast from the past winter dragy- 120.58 MPH. Only .15 slower than the 2 MPH advantaged RWD Terry Meth Mobile.

1. 11.58* @120.58, @Tonkabob, 7.50 @95.83, 1.82
GT2 AWD, Tork ECU tune, Ark catback, JT intake, Ultimate FMIC, SSR midpipe, wheels. E15 94 octane

2. 11.83* @119.61, @Get Stung, 7.70 @93.83, 1.89
AWD, JB4 Map5, Secondary CAT bypass, Borla catback, Injen intake 93 octane+ Boostane

3. 11.87* @ 118.29, @ScottyCole, 7.71 @93.25, 1.88
AWD, Lap3 Pro, K&N Intakes, UP HFC down/mid, Borla Catback, 93 octane + E85

4. 11.91* @120.73, @Terry@BMS, 7.82 @94.96, 2.03
GT RWD, JB4, BMS intake, Water/Methanol injection 50/50, Drag radials, wheels. 30% E85
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I thought getstung had the fastest Trap? Wasnt it like 120.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

Oh nvm we are back to using draggy... lol

 

[Tonkabob]

Oh nvm we are back to using draggy... lol

We arn't tracking the fastest trap which is half the point.

 

[Tonkabob]

We now have a fast heavy weight GT2 AWD JB4 car to add to the mix. But i'm afraid it helps debunk the rest of @StungBlueGT2 's bench racing tuning theories. We have established that stock boost even as measured by JB4 can go up to 14.5 PSI, and even 16 PSI in extreme conditions as measured by boost gauge. 14.5 PSI +8 on WMI = 22.5 potential, so same boost, could go higher.
The new heavy weight challenger has more mods, similar traps and .1 slower ETs so far. Extra mods are WMI, throttle body, BOV, no mufflers, no secondary cats. (my secondary's are back on and my muffler is not straight through) The WMI FMIC combo seems to work as he said he was hitting 80-85 IATs to my 119 IATs at my last outing when I ran a 11.89, 11.90 @ 117 MPH. He also is doing some trick to launch on boost so no launch advantage now. I'm still resistant to WMI but just the lower temps with no tune or octane changes should get me down around 11.75 or lower.

1. 11.86 @ 117.16, @Tonkabob, 7.67 @ 93.53, 1.84
GT2 AWD, Tork ECU tune, Ark catback, JT intake, UP FMIC, SSR midpipe (11.89 w stock MP), E15

3. 11.959 @ 117.80 @Kinvara8017, 7.75 @ 93.28, 1.838
GT2 AWD JB4, WMI, UP FMIC, throttle body, VT snorkel, BOV, Custom primary cat back straight pipe exhaust

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

should get me down around 11.75 or lower.

We see that should word or would word quite a bit from the Tork side of things. You are local, id dont get why (john thinks) if you guys can get down to mid 11s (he actually has said low 11s) with meth why dont you guys. Im sure he has a spare kit laying around just slap it on a rubber throttle body couplings and run it under the car so you can pull it after the track day. Let see it be done.

When i tried to support Tork I mentioned that he needs to work on advertising, You should 100% be asking to be a sponsored vehicle as you are going to be the only thing that can help propel him to sales. If you can get to mid 11s and help create a Tonka package like Meth kit, tune, intakes and exhaust for idk $3k im sure that will help get some bites and more importantly SALES. I know you know deep down the more John cant sell tunes the less likely he will continue to support the platform. I like you tonka so i have faith if you can help GUIDE him you guys can create something very niche, but very impresive.

 

[Kamauxx]

Tork actually proclaimed loud and proud right here on the forum that he doesn't care about sales.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

Tork actually proclaimed loud and proud right here on the forum that he doesn't care about sales.

He can say that all he wants, but at the end of the day his "passion" doesnt keep the lights on and food on the table.