Turbo upgrade.

[Jsmale30]

Just curious what supporting mods are needed to do an upgraded turbo kit?

 

[Ohiocruiser]

That will do

 

[G70LEbyAdoom]

That will do View attachment 71599

The Most accurate answer honestly. Dude wins the post first reply. GG's

 

[Stiletto]

Just curious what supporting mods are needed to do an upgraded turbo kit?

Which engine (2L or 3.3L)?

Considering both already have hair dryers from the factory, technically nothing is NEEDED to swap to a larger snail if you go with the factory manifold and oil/water lines. As with all ICEs, more air in and more air out equal more power.

How you drive will truly dictate what is required.

 

[stingerstevo]

I'm waiting to see some numbers. All I've seen so far is the guy that they're using to do marketing needs new tires.

 

[AWDGT2]

You can and will max out the Primary down pipe with stock turbos. So, to answer your question you should get HFC to truly get the most out of more boost. BUT, that comes with several other issues
* Over boost (With HFC)
* Lifting heads due to inferior head bolts (Already happening with stock turbos)
* Hurting the transmission (Will happen with more HP)

 

[Devin]

* Lifting heads due to inferior head bolts (Already happening with stock turbos)

Seriously?

 

[playerbase]

You can and will max out the Primary down pipe with stock turbos. So, to answer your question you should get HFC to truly get the most out of more boost. BUT, that comes with several other issues
* Over boost (With HFC)
* Lifting heads due to inferior head bolts (Already happening with stock turbos)
* Hurting the transmission (Will happen with more HP)

Don't the heads only lift when pushing above 20-25psi? If I'm not wrong the Lap3 Stage 2.5 tune pushes 18-19 and still makes 500whp which is pretty cool.

 

[Stiletto]

Seriously?

Even worse, there's no aftermarket option for better bolts.

 

[MerlintheMad]

* Lifting heads due to inferior head bolts (Already happening with stock turbos)

Tell us more. I have not heard. I am not believing that our "little snails" could lift anything.

 

[AWDGT2]

Seriously?

Yup, Even the small turbos have blown head gaskets. Ask John B and Joel W, just off the top of my head. They had no turbo upgrades. These cars were built to have around 15ish max. When you push 23-25+ sustained things have gone wrong. Most of the time it was due to "Spikes" but none the less it's happened.

 

[AWDGT2]

Don't the heads only lift when pushing above 20-25psi? If I'm not wrong the Lap3 Stage 2.5 tune pushes 18-19 and still makes 500whp which is pretty cool.

True but they are making it up with an extremely high advanced timing. Honestly that's a technique that works but it in itself can cause just as bad or worst damage. Knock becomes a concern. One bad compression cycle that's lit too early and that piston is cracking. I think there's a better balance by keeping the timing below 19 deg and running 20-21 deg of boost. You can run a comfortable 10.9 with the right weight reduction and have a daily that will last as long as any other unmodified motor.

 

[Stiletto]

Yup, Even the small turbos have blown head gaskets. Ask John B and Joel W, just off the top of my head. They had no turbo upgrades. These cars were built to have around 15ish max. When you push 23-25+ sustained things have gone wrong. Most of the time it was due to "Spikes" but none the less it's happened.

Another part with no aftermarket support.

 

[G70LEbyAdoom]

Yup, Even the small turbos have blown head gaskets. Ask John B and Joel W, just off the top of my head. They had no turbo upgrades. These cars were built to have around 15ish max. When you push 23-25+ sustained things have gone wrong. Most of the time it was due to "Spikes" but none the less it's happened.

I could be wrong but I could have swore 26+ is where the issues start. Also, Tork is in the final stages of his headbolt kit by the looks of it which should help solve this issue. either way though, 20-21 should probably be the max boost someone should expect with these cars without issues.

 

[Devin]

C'mon ARP...

 

[AWDGT2]

C'mon ARP...

I know right!

 

[playerbase]

True but they are making it up with an extremely high advanced timing. Honestly that's a technique that works but it in itself can cause just as bad or worst damage. Knock becomes a concern. One bad compression cycle that's lit too early and that piston is cracking. I think there's a better balance by keeping the timing below 19 deg and running 20-21 deg of boost. You can run a comfortable 10.9 with the right weight reduction and have a daily that will last as long as any other unmodified motor.

I'm not looking to be the fastest in the world, but being closer to or even to hit that 500whp mark safely & reliably (my car is my daily) would be really nice. I have e85 available so I'm planning on doing CPI + Lap3 or whatever might be out on the market at the time. Sure I won't be stepping on it 24/7 but I don't know what would be worse, high boost or high ignition timing. I guess we'll see the long term effects of it soon though for those who do run full e85 + tune.

 

[AWDGT2]

Noone is running full E85... Close but we're not there yet (Except one mystery G-70). Lap3 is a good option and so is Sxth.

 

[GennyGuy]

Noone is running full E85... Close but we're not there yet (Except one mystery G-70). Lap3 is a good option and so is Sxth.

@Avant is. Nobody is running faster with full E85. Seems like E30 is sweet spot when you look at E/Ts.

 

[playerbase]

Noone is running full E85... Close but we're not there yet (Except one mystery G-70). Lap3 is a good option and so is Sxth.

I thought where was one guy who was? Also I had emailed Lap3 and heard back that people were able to run full e85 with the tune