Stinger GT Beats V8 Mustang

[SEA Stinger]

Stinger ran the quarter mile in 12.83 seconds, versus 13.32 for the Mustang. Woohoo!

Watch A Kia Stinger GT Beat A V8 Ford Mustang In A Straight Line

 

[DaJackson]

I’ll just leave my post from the last Mustang video.

Except it takes about $4 and a toothpick to run 11s in a Mustang. Ok that might be a slight exaggeration.

 

[Bamm1]

Stinger ran the quarter mile in 12.83 seconds, versus 13.32 for the Mustang. Woohoo!

Watch A Kia Stinger GT Beat A V8 Ford Mustang In A Straight Line

Is this the updated for 2018 Mustang? The power ratings seem off for both the 2017 and the 2018. Maybe the ratings are different for the much warmer Australian climate? The ratings convert to 410hp / 390tq. The US '17 makes 435/400 and the '18 makes 460/420. This is also a manual vs. an automatic. The Mustang might need a driver mod to improve the times.

I would not expect the same result if matched up against a US-spec '18 10A GT.

 

[SEA Stinger]

I simply posted the video because I thought people might find it interesting.

I don't claim to know differences between various versions of the Mustang. My only recent experience was with the convertible that I got stuck driving last year on Maui. Even though it had low miles on it, it was an absolute POS!

 

[Bamm1]

I simply posted the video because I thought people might find it interesting. I don't claim to be an expert on differences between various versions of the Mustang. My only recent experience was with the convertible that I got stuck driving last year on Maui. Even though it had low miles on it, it was an absolute POS!

No worries, my comments were more "thinking out loud" not so much requesting you become our resident Mustang SME

I do find it interesting that there is a Kia being compared to any Mustang. But given that the '18 10A GT runs the 1/4 in 11.8 @ 120 mph (stock), I wouldn't advice any Stinger owner go and try to race one.

 

[SEA Stinger]

No worries, my comments were more "thinking out loud" not so much requesting you become our resident Mustang SME

I do find it interesting that there is a Kia being compared to any Mustang. But given that the '18 10A GT runs the 1/4 in 11.8 @ 120 mph (stock), I wouldn't advice any Stinger owner go and try to race one.

Ok, gotcha.

Looks like the Oz version differs from the U.S. I wonder why a manual transmission Mustang was used for the comparo with the Stinger.

You got me curious, so I checked out the Ford website. It shows the '18 Shelby GT350 with a 5.2L V8 producing 526 hp and 429 lb-ft. of torque. Price starts at $57k and it is a heavy drinker: 14 MPG city and 21 MPG highway. Even though I read that on the Internet, it still doesn't make me an expert!

 

[Bamm1]

Ok, gotcha.

Looks like the Oz version differs from the U.S. I wonder why a manual transmission Mustang was used for the comparo with the Stinger.

You got me curious, so I checked out the Ford website. It shows the '18 Shelby GT350 with a 5.2L V8 producing 526 hp and 429 lb-ft. of torque. Price starts at $57k and it is a heavy drinker: 14 MPG city and 21 MPG highway. Even though I read that on the Internet, it still doesn't make me an expert!

Could be that is the most popular way the Mustang is configured down under....or they really wanted the Stinger to win

The times I quoted are for the regular GT (non-Shelby model). The GT350 is manual only and actually slower than the auto GT in a straight line. The '18 gets 16/25/19 and starts at $37,685 with the 10A. With that said, I don't think people would actually cross shop the two, but ya never know I guess.

 

[iclicku]

Stock '18 GT w/ 10A run high 11s and low 12s.
You can skip to 2:35 for the run and numbers.

 

[Rufus]

Fast is fast, and the 'stang has that down cold. And as @DaJackson pointed out, they are cheap and easy to modify. That said, I believe the 3.3tt is going to be an aftermarket darling once the ECU is cracked and tuners can dig in.

110.6 hp per liter is not that power-dense, compared to other similar sized factory turbo motors out there. Yet from all accounts, the bottom end is forged meaning it was meant to handle considerable power levels. No manufacturer drops the extra coin for forged pistols and crank if hypereutectic pistons and a cast crank will serve their end purpose. Even the new Mustang GT makes 92hp per liter naturally aspirated. Give it a few years, and we should be seeing some MONSTER power levels coming from the modified Stingers!
--EDIT
The current transmission also serves behind the full-size Genesis models which are heavier and designed to withstand V8 torque. So, possible TCU glitches aside, the Stinger tranny should be good for another 100hp/75 lb.ft. of twist at least. The x factor to me is the rear end. When I think of strong rear ends, Ford's 9in, GM's 12 bolt, and the Mopar 8.75 come to mind, not Hyundai/Kia. I know they make industrial auto parts, so I'll give that part the benefit of the doubt for now to be able to handle a 30% gain. In my estimation, making big, reliable power should be pretty easy up to where the weak link in the powertrain shows itself. But I firmly believe we'll be seeing Stingers crack off sub 4sec 0-60 times inside of a year from now.

 

[RVance]

Fast is fast, and the 'stang has that down cold. And as @DaJackson pointed out, they are cheap and easy to modify. That said, I believe the 3.3tt is going to be an aftermarket darling once the ECU is cracked and tuners can dig in.

110.6 hp per liter is not that power-dense, compared to other similar sized factory turbo motors out there. Even the new Mustang GT makes 92hp per liter naturally aspirated. Give it a few years, and we should be seeing some MONSTER power levels coming from the modified Stingers!

I agree. Been driving a 5.0 GT 5 speed for 30 years. The new Mustangs are quicker in every department. But as much of a Ford guy as I am, I am putting down a deposit for a Stinger GT2 this weekend. I think it is a nicer piece. Roomier, hatchback practicality (like my Fox body!) and all wheel drive for the great northwest where I live. I need an all arounder for California border to border trips and the Kia is ideal.

 

[Rufus]

Boy, those Fox bodies were super light and were legit giant killers for hardly any coin! Yes, there are and always will be faster and sharper handling cars than the Stinger. It's secret sauce, IMHO, is that it sits right in the middle of any car lover's Venn Diagram. It has a deliberate and solid foot on nearly any auto enthusiast's circle of preference.
Great handling, yet still comfortable? Check
Real world seating for 4? Check
Quick and responsive? Check
From a car company known for reliability? Check
Cargo room? Check
Available AWD? Check
Long warranty? Check
Embedded tech? Check
Good looking? CHECK
Value for the money? Check

Are there other cars who can beat it on individual points? Absolutely. Can many other cars hit all the above points at once? NOPE

 

[oxide365]

we all saw the video months ago, but good to see it front page...

https://jalopnik.com/the-kia-stinger-gt-beasts-the-ford-mustang-gt-1823768217

 

[DaJackson]

This should probably be in the thread about the video.

Stinger GT Beats V8 Mustang

 

[oxide365]

it should. don't read the comments, alot of waaa waaa mustang boyz not happy

 

[Bear]

it should. don't read the comments, alot of waaa waaa mustang boyz not happy

I have both a Cobra and a Stinger. I can tell you, a 2018 Mustang GT would slaughter a Stinger. The 0-60 in a 2018 GT is sub 4 second and runs around 11.6-11.8 in 1/4.

I wouldn’t challenge a stock 2018 Mustang GT until I have a tune, exhaust, intake and bigger intercooler...at minimum.

 

[oxide365]

ya, 2018 Mustang is supposed to be alot quicker.

 

[Helo58]

A lot of guys here are going to race a Mustang and find out the hard way. 460hp 10spd 3700lb > 365hp 8spd 4000lb. Any host of mods to the GT will only exacerbate this. Nitrous, supercharger, etc. are readily available for the Coyote engine. Be content with the GT aspects of this car because if you chase Mustang and Camaro times it will cost you many things, pride and money being two of them.

 

[weew]

to be completely fair, this is an unusually slow run for the mustang GT.

i wouldn't expect the stinger to beat a mustang, nor should it, unless the mustang's driver is asleep at the wheel.

 

[Rufus]

A lot of guys here are going to race a Mustang and find out the hard way. 460hp 10spd 3700lb > 365hp 8spd 4000lb. Any host of mods to the GT will only exacerbate this. Nitrous, supercharger, etc. are readily available for the Coyote engine. Be content with the GT aspects of this car because if you chase Mustang and Camaro times it will cost you many things, pride and money being two of them.

Agreed. Anyone who bought a Stinger for stock, outright speed purchased the wrong car...

 

[RVance]

Boy, those Fox bodies were super light and were legit giant killers for hardly any coin! Yes, there are and always will be faster and sharper handling cars than the Stinger. It's secret sauce, IMHO, is that it sits right in the middle of any car lover's Venn Diagram. It has a deliberate and solid foot on nearly any auto enthusiast's circle of preference.
Great handling, yet still comfortable? Check
Real world seating? Check
Quick and responsive? Check
From a car company known for reliability? Check
Cargo room? Check
Available AWD? Check
Long warranty? Check
Embedded tech? Check
Good looking? CHECK
Value for the money? Check

Are there other cars who can beat it on individual points? Absolutely. Can many other cars hit all the above points at once? NOPE

Excellent, intelligent summation. Just got word my GT2 is in. Excited!