PS I refuse to read Reddit. It is the modern reincarnation of news groups, and the signal to noise ratio is, if anything, worse.
r/cars is a very sane subreddit with active moderation.

PS I refuse to read Reddit. It is the modern reincarnation of news groups, and the signal to noise ratio is, if anything, worse.
We are living "the age of the grill". The future will look back on this time and laugh.Also agree with the article. To each his own. However, I would never buy any Lexus or Toyota product with that fugly front end grille.
We are living "the age of the grill".
Vis-à-vis customer satisfaction with Kia service: over two-thirds of Kia owners are satisfied with their service experience, according to Consumer Reports last year. Reading the posts by dissatisfied customers is a distortion of the real world. What about all those who don't complain? You never hear from them. No kidding.

Go look at total sales for the stinger and telluride, they are not driving the Kia brand right now. Still far more Optimas, Fortes and Souls driving through the service drive.
The Stinger is meant to boost brand perception and isn't really meant to be a sales superstar. It just has to exist, like the Civic Type-R, and it'll boost sales of other models.
The Telluride, on the other hand, is not a halo car and should be selling in large quantities.