PresserTech or Tork? Bench Tunes (Non-Vendor Accts Please)

[Regs120]

So what is your opinion on bench tunes? Should I go with PresserTech, Tork, or wait for lap3 and JB to come out with theirs?

PresserTech just seems they run a very reputable business and they don't get caught up with the drama. Their pricetag is hard to swallow and they don't offer a loaner ECU for downtime.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

Id wait if you can. If not id look at what you want in tune. They both offer mild to wild my friend. If you want mild I think the value on Tork stage 0 is pretty good, but not as good as a JB4 which would be a better option IMO. Especially for those pesky warranty issues you may have.

If you want Wild id wait. BTR is almost here and i cant see lap3 waiting much longer to release either. If you want EXTREME id be looking at a Pressertech Stage 3 and Upgraded Turbos.

 

[brancky3]

I would agree to wait, because there are 2 vendors (as Mr. DaBears said) about to release their ECU tunes. If you want something in the meantime (that is 99%, if not 100%, of the performance of an ECU tune) I would highly suggest JB4. On the positive side, you can remove JB4 and sell it once you go the ECU route, or keep it for fine tuning / logging / future mods.

 

[Terry@BMS]

I know you said no vendor accounts but...

I would never load a flash map until they have at home flashing for updates. Just run a JB4 for now, enjoy the huge power gains, and once the flash market has sorted out and you can flash at home, then flash it. And continue to use the JB4 for fine tuning, logging, etc. Or sell it down the road. Even when flash tuning becomes popular many customers won't want to flash due to the loss of warranty so JB4 will remain popular on the secondary market.

 

[nhcowboy28]

I know you said no vendor accounts but...

I would never load a flash map until they have at home flashing for updates. Just run a JB4 for now, enjoy the huge power gains, and once the flash market has sorted out and you can flash at home, then flash it. And continue to use the JB4 for fine tuning, logging, etc. Or sell it down the road. Even when flash tuning becomes popular many customers won't want to flash due to the loss of warranty so JB4 will remain popular on the secondary market.

3 replies in and a vendor couldn’t resist.

Jc. The op doesn’t want a biased opinion. And the other vendor now will certainly encroach.

We like you... but ffs follow directions.

 

[MisterMac]

Call @PRESSERtech LLC , they had some ECU's in stock last I talked to them. They won't be programmed to your VIN, but might do that job while in transition. I've had nothing but pure enjoyment with their tune.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

Call @PRESSERtech LLC , they had some ECU's in stock last I talked to them. They won't be programmed to your VIN, but might do that job while in transition. I've had nothing but pure enjoyment with their tune.

have you gone to the track? Any info on times? We have yet to see anything but dynos and people happy with their tunes but no track numbers yet

 

[MisterMac]

have you gone to the track? Any info on times? We have yet to see anything but dynos and people happy with their tunes but no track numbers yet

No. Intended to this spring, but the owners of the local track sold the property. The new owners aren't going to use it as a track, so I am out of luck. Good grief.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

No. Intended to this spring, but the owners of the local track sold the property. The new owners aren't going to use it as a track, so I am out of luck. Good grief.

Have you considered a draggy? Its pretty close enough to what you can expect at a track.

 

[eflyguy]

I'll be taking mine to our nearby 1/8 strip, but the stars have not aligned - has been rained out three times on days I might have been able to go. The NHRA strip is two hours away without traffic, but they only run on Friday nights and getting there is going to be a real challenge.

I'm very happy with my tune, however.

 

[MisterMac]

Have you considered a draggy? Its pretty close enough to what you can expect at a track.

Yes. I bought one. Turns out that was much easier than finding some flat land here when the wind isn't blowing some good awful speed. This place is seriously challenging and frustrating. I've become content without knowing just how fast she really is.

 

[DaBears4Lyfe]

Yes. I bought one. Turns out that was much easier than finding some flat land here amen the wind isn't blowing some good awful speed. This place is seriously challenging and frustrating. I've become content without knowing just how fast she really is.

Nice. Ya finding flat open SAFE areas is tricky. I just look for industrial parks and make sure its late when most of them are closed up.

 

[MisterMac]

Nice. Ya finding flat open SAFE areas is tricky. I just look for industrial parks and make sure its late when most of them are closed up.

Is seems the culture in El Paso likes to race cars and those places know it. I've tried several only to find a plethora of speed bumps and light poles. It is rediculous.

Back in Kansas I had lots of flat ground and huge own parking lots....

 

[Regs120]

I don't mind the idea of a canned tuned without the ability of fine tuning it. I am not a engineer and I am not going to touch and play with the options - I will let the pro's do that. I do realize I am leaving power on the table, but I am not looking to max out the Stinger and drive a death-mobile or get the fastest 1/4 mile possible before popping a rod through my 8000 dollar engine.

I am trying to use common sense . The JB4 intercepting data sensors and fooling a computer, in my head, sounds counter intuitive to the safety of my engine. Having to have gaped spark plugs beyond spec should clue you in or set off a red flag. A mild tune from Presser-tech to me would give me less chance for failure in the first place. This all depends on the experience and talent of the tuner which I have high confidence in PresserTech.

I am of course, no engineer or even the slightest bit mechanically inclined, but an ECU tune has to be more efficient in the way it adds power compared to a box.

 

[Regs120]

I would agree to wait, because there are 2 vendors (as Mr. DaBears said) about to release their ECU tunes. If you want something in the meantime (that is 99%, if not 100%, of the performance of an ECU tune) I would highly suggest JB4. On the positive side, you can remove JB4 and sell it once you go the ECU route, or keep it for fine tuning / logging / future mods.

Have these vendors released ECU tunes in the past for the stinger? Tork and Pressertech already have at least a year of R&D on it. I don't want to be the guinea pig. Hopefully they have been testing on their own cars for a good amount of miles. I am also hoping the price is a lot more reasonable than 1250.

 

[Regs120]

Id wait if you can. If not id look at what you want in tune. They both offer mild to wild my friend. If you want mild I think the value on Tork stage 0 is pretty good, but not as good as a JB4 which would be a better option IMO. Especially for those pesky warranty issues you may have.

If you want Wild id wait. BTR is almost here and i cant see lap3 waiting much longer to release either. If you want EXTREME id be looking at a Pressertech Stage 3 and Upgraded Turbos.

I appreciate the info. Why do you believe a piggyback is better than a real ECU tune? I would be a little worried too about pissing away "americas best warranty" but how is JB4 any safer than a real ECU flash made from Tork or PT? Warranty or not, putting in a new engine and having your car out of commission would be a nightmare even with a warranty. No one wants to have engine or trans issues.

 

[WildBill]

The biggest benefit of a box like the JB4 is the flexibility. You can set it to stock, mild, medium, or hell on wheels pretty easily. So it can allow your tune to grow / change to take advantage of the mods you add down the road. Also removable for service.
With a ECU tune it is 1 and done. If that isn't an issue then, well, it isn't. And I agree that an ECU tune, when done properly, is inherently a better tune and is probably easier on the car since it can access more tables.

 

[Pnbnationsbest]

That won't be the case if we can get remote flash tuning. I'm waiting.

 

[WildBill]

I agree, that would be a dream come true. Is there anyone saying they are really working on OBDII flash tuning though?
COBB has said no dice repeatedly, I know that.

 

[Angel]

Have these vendors released ECU tunes in the past for the stinger? Tork and Pressertech already have at least a year of R&D on it. I don't want to be the guinea pig. Hopefully they have been testing on their own cars for a good amount of miles. I am also hoping the price is a lot more reasonable than 1250.

Blood Type Racing (BTR), you should definitely look into them. BTR and Lap 3 most likely have a year or more of RD but no one really knows about what they have going on because there very under the radar. They do specialize on Korean cars. You should see the Sema car's that BTR has built.

Tork you can read review on them, I will keep my opinion to myself.

Pressertech has a very reputable shop and their customer service is amazing. They also do work on high end cars. Everyone that I know that has got the Pressertech tune loves it.

As far as an ecu tune being more efficient/better than a piggyback. I cannot argue that, because I feel that a proper ecu tune will outperform a piggyback.

Now I own a JB4 and I personally never had any issues. I can even make the argument that I have outperformed or been right there on performance with all the ecu tunes out now with minimal mods. The performance gain of the JB4 for the value is incredible. That is assuming that money is not a concern.

I personally will wait for BTR to release their ecu tune. Once they release it I will have them tune my car locally. At first I was going to sell my JB4, but I have had more appreciation/understanding for what the JB4 can do. I will keep the JB4 for data logging, some fine tuning and to run meth/E85 down the road. I don't know how aggressive the BTR tune will be so with the JB4 I can lower the boost so the car is not on kill mode all the time when daily driving/long trips.

I will run both the JB4 and the BTR tune.

I don't know were you are located but that could also determine which ecu tune you go with. If Pressertech was local to me I am sure I would of went their route. My plan's were to take a road trip to Atlanta this summer to get tuned by Pressertech. My plans changed since I found out about BTR being local to me.

It will all come down to your personal preference. If you want a mild/safer ecu tune I don't see how you can go wrong with Pressertech.

Hope this helps, if you wait I will tell you how the BTR tune is, and you will see my track times as well.