Petition for real manual transmission mode

[Well Stung]

If you have drive-by-wire, there is no stick and no physical way to put it into manual mode. But Sport mode should combine with paddle usage to prevent it from reverting to D. It did in the car I test drove and it better in the one I am picking up soon or they can keep the car.

 

[Marc Collins]

Why did you quote me when linking this video? It does NOT show the drive-by-wire lack of manual mode that I was discussing. There is no issue when there is a clear slot or position to move the shift lever into.

 

[upsidedown]

If you have drive-by-wire, there is no stick and no physical way to put it into manual mode. But Sport mode should combine with paddle usage to prevent it from reverting to D. It did in the car I test drove and it better in the one I am picking up soon or they can keep the car.

So Marc do you actually have a Stinger?
It would appear from some of the posts you have done that you have first hand experience with a car you own giving you some real world feedback about their on road feel but your post yesterday is somewhat confusing if that is the case?

 

[Well Stung]

So Marc do you actually have a Stinger?
It would appear from some of the posts you have done that you have first hand experience with a car you own giving you some real world feedback about their on road feel but your post yesterday is somewhat confusing if that is the case?

That's exactly what I was thinking...

 

[Marc Collins]

So Marc do you actually have a Stinger?
It would appear from some of the posts you have done that you have first hand experience with a car you own giving you some real world feedback about their on road feel but your post yesterday is somewhat confusing if that is the case?

That's exactly what I was thinking...

Firstly, what possible difference does it make it if I have a Stinger in my possession? I was paying attention to these issues because I already anticipated them when I did my almost one hour test drive. Please don't waste time of all involved replying to threads that are asking about technical details or facts with queries about people's motivations. Do either of you have anything to contribute factually or to suggest what I have said is wrong because you have the car in your possession and should be able to confirm or deny with ease?

 

[Well Stung]

Firstly, what possible difference does it make it if I have a Stinger in my possession? I was paying attention to these issues because I already anticipated them when I did my almost one hour test drive. Please don't waste time of all involved replying to threads that are asking about technical details or facts with queries about people's motivations. Do either of you have anything to contribute factually or to suggest what I have said is wrong because you have the car in your possession and should be able to confirm or deny with ease?

Ok..fine. You're wrong it can be shifted manually ... You're welcome

 

[Marc Collins]

Ok..fine. You're wrong it can be shifted manually ... You're welcome

WTF are you talking about?

There is a manual position for the drive-by-wire shifter? Wow, you're the only one on Earth who has discovered this. Please share with the rest of us how it is accomplished.

 

[Well Stung]

WTF are you talking about?

There is a manual position for the drive-by-wire shifter? Wow, you're the only one on Earth who has discovered this. Please share with the rest of us how it is accomplished.

 

[Well Stung]

Watch the video

 

[Marc Collins]

Watch the video

Not worth responding to...

 

[upsidedown]

Firstly, what possible difference does it make it if I have a Stinger in my possession? I was paying attention to these issues because I already anticipated them when I did my almost one hour test drive. Please don't waste time of all involved replying to threads that are asking about technical details or facts with queries about people's motivations. Do either of you have anything to contribute factually or to suggest what I have said is wrong because you have the car in your possession and should be able to confirm or deny with ease?

Marc I'll tell you what difference it makes whether you have a Stinger or not. It makes a difference to the people that come on here that are using their car day to day, and starting to notice things that they would like feedback on from other users, not someone that has done a 1 hour test drive. I did a few what I thought were comprehensive test drives as well but that didn't make me feel qualified to give my opinion on the car and what KIA should / could / would do to fix some issues. I mean you've commented on the Seat Material, LSD, Gas Requirements, Paddle Shifters and Jerky Auto Transmission based on a 1 hour test drive. Seriously?

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for people coming on to forums to learn things and ask questions even if they don't own a car, but leave it to the people that have a car, to comment on the threads that are asking for feedback about day to day problems

And maybe you should take your own advice "Please don't waste time of all involved replying to threads that are asking about technical details or facts IF YOU DON"T OWN ONE"

It will obey you in Sport mode, but not the others (where it reverts to D, usually prematurely). Even in Sport, it will downshift if you are coming to a stop (but so does every other one on the market).

And you are wrong on this at least on the Australian 3.3 dbw model. Sport mode will change to D just like the others when you are cruising

 

[Marc Collins]

And you are wrong on this at least on the Australian 3.3 dbw model. Sport mode will change to D just like the others when you are cruising

So you have a different programming in Australia, then. This was the first thing I tested in the car because I predicted it would have a shitty, typical mass market not-real manual mode. But it doesn't have that in Sport mode in the Canadian car I drove. Maybe it was a one-off that works properly? I doubt it. See if you can get your programming updated...

Nothing I have commented on requires more than a lot of knowledge about cars in general, some research and a one-hour test drive.

Seat material: poor quality compared to the last 6 cars I have owned. I am sure it's an upgrade over a Rio, but it is not in Audi, BMW, Volvo, Lexus or even Infiniti territory. I have given no opinion on durability of the seats since I haven't used them for six months or a year to tell. Apparently multiple people are disappointed in the durability after only a few weeks. Scary.

LSD: irrelevant to test drive. Sister car has it. Most RWD GT's have it. AWD should have it. I happen to know what difference it is supposed to make and I know how to adjust a race car differential. My opinion is that I would like the option to have it on our car here in Canada. None of your business, ultimately.

Gas requirements: my posts speak for themselves. Only KIA can clarify which octane is/was used to generate the official torque and power numbers. But they haven't yet. Very strange. What is being hidden? All manufacturers recommend premium if they think they can get away with it. No test that any consumer can do will reveal anything of value or answer the question. Test drive versus owner irrelevant to this question.

Paddle shifters: I have had paddle shifters on every car I have owned since 2002 (Audi). I didn't make any comments specifically about them anyway. But if I did, a one hour test drive would have been enough to opine or compare given my experience.

Jerky transmission: many people are owning or driving a car with a transmission programmed to be "sporty" for the first time. Many people have not driven a hybrid or EV. They may be imagining that all auto transmissions are supposed to feel like they did in days of old. Most do not today (and it is a good thing). Experience from driving many cars and real race cars and the Stinger is more than enough info for me to weigh in to these discussions. Again, the transmission was my number one source of scepticism about this vehicle. I tested it thoroughly and felt the sensations others were describing. The issue is they are there by design. If you don't agree or don't like it, good for you. I can still write my opinion for the benefit of those on the forum who may not know certain things. I have learned a ton about the Stinger from others on here...it's kind of the point.

Go ahead and respond to issues about day-to-day problems. I will too, as I see fit. If you don't like it, put me on ignore. Your suggestion that I refrain from commenting will be ignored by me since I have contributed nothing but posts that have attempted to be helpful useful and on topic--I am neither a fanboy, nor a troll.

 

[upsidedown]

Go ahead and respond to issues about day-to-day problems. I will too, as I see fit. If you don't like it, put me on ignore. Your suggestion that I refrain from commenting will be ignored by me since I have contributed nothing but posts that have attempted to be helpful useful and on topic--I am neither a fanboy, nor a troll.

Yes Marc that is about what I thought you'd say. Good for you that you seem to have an opinion on everything and share it with us all. I never thought you were a troll but geez 136 posts since Feb 23 on a car you don't have does make me wonder. Anyway no need to put you on ignore as I already feel that your posts are not worth reading because they don't actually have any real world basis on this car. Wishing you luck when you finally get your car that it meets your requirements

 

[Well Stung]

Yes Marc that is about what I thought you'd say. Good for you that you seem to have an opinion on everything and share it with us all. I never thought you were a troll but geez 136 posts since Feb 23 on a car you don't have does make me wonder. Anyway no need to put you on ignore as I already feel that your posts are not worth reading because they don't actually have any real world basis on this car. Wishing you luck when you finally get your car that it meets your requirements

You have way more patience for trolls than I do...I already blocked him.

 

[Marc Collins]

Yes Marc that is about what I thought you'd say. Good for you that you seem to have an opinion on everything and share it with us all. I never thought you were a troll but geez 136 posts since Feb 23 on a car you don't have does make me wonder. Anyway no need to put you on ignore as I already feel that your posts are not worth reading because they don't actually have any real world basis on this car. Wishing you luck when you finally get your car that it meets your requirements

Yes, whatever your real name is, your reply is about what I thought you would say. 100% devoid of useful content or facts and bizarrely sniping at a person on the other side of the planet who you will never meet and should mean nothing to you personally. You could have replied pointing out, with all your real-world experience, either where I am wrong, misinformed or just places you disagree with my assessment. That would be useful to other readers. Instead, you continue to troll, so I will now ignore you.

But one last comment because I can't help myself and it might be useful to other Aussies: is it not possible to comprehend that because you got your Stingers in Australia many months ahead of North America that you have an older transmission shift logic? So, it could be updated. Or, for some reason, someone thought Aussie's are stupider than the rest of the world and you can't handle a better manual mode, even in Sport? If I lived there I would either find out ASAP if there is an update or want to set the record straight and get the better programming in my country.

And one of the reasons I have so many posts already is because I need to be well-informed since I am in communication with senior people at KIA about some of these issues. Instead of whinging about other people's posts, I am trying to get the car improved sooner rather than later.

 

[Dspec 1]

Yes, whatever your real name is, your reply is about what I thought you would say. 100% devoid of useful content or facts and bizarrely sniping at a person on the other side of the planet who you will never meet and should mean nothing to you personally. You could have replied pointing out, with all your real-world experience, either where I am wrong, misinformed or just places you disagree with my assessment. That would be useful to other readers. Instead, you continue to troll, so I will now ignore you.

But one last comment because I can't help myself and it might be useful to other Aussies: is it not possible to comprehend that because you got your Stingers in Australia many months ahead of North America that you have an older transmission shift logic? So, it could be updated. Or, for some reason, someone thought Aussie's are stupider than the rest of the world and you can't handle a better manual mode, even in Sport? If I lived there I would either find out ASAP if there is an update or want to set the record straight and get the better programming in my country.

And one of the reasons I have so many posts already is because I need to be well-informed since I am in communication with senior people at KIA about some of these issues. Instead of whinging about other people's posts, I am trying to get the car improved sooner rather than later.

What exactly out of curiosity are after? Aftermarket developer? Industry lobbyist? I mean , awesome if the car can be enhanced, but this all feels really odd. Come clean, tell us who, and how, you are able to be in contact with “senior people at KIA” and for what purpose?.

 

[DaJackson]

Have we figured out who has the bigger e-penis yet? We need to update the FAQ so everyone knows.

 

[Dspec 1]

Ah yes, happens at every forum.

 

[Robcio]

Not to jump into this debate, but to share my own experience after receiving my Stinger GT AWD last friday.

When in Sports mode and using the paddle shifters the car maintains the selected gear and does not revert back to D unless you come to a complete stop. I didn't try take the car to redline, but id imagine it will shift up a gear.

FYI this is the Korean Spec GT

 

[Marc Collins]

Not to jump into this debate, but to share my own experience after receiving my Stinger GT AWD last friday.

When in Sports mode and using the paddle shifters the car maintains the selected gear and does not revert back to D unless you come to a complete stop. I didn't try take the car to redline, but id imagine it will shift up a gear.

FYI this is the Korean Spec GT

Thanks for contributing to the content of the thread and confirming the Korean car works as does the Canadian one.