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I got my Stinger on Thursday, finally arrived after sitting in Alabama for a few weeks waiting for delivery truck to ship it. So today I dedicated to really cleaning it and protecting it.

This is it getting off the truck
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Looks pretty clean. I could not find any of the usual dealer treatments like swirl marks, or paint chipping whatsoever.

So first step is to give it a good wash, and then put some Ironx on the car to get off any ferrite particles stuck to the paint. It turns red/purple on any of these materials as it loosens them off. Kinda hard to see from the picture but actually a decent mount.

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That is one section of the hood and then after cleaning off the ironx I proceed to clay bar. To my amazement, in just half the hood this is how much came off.

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When I got my Golf R, it was less than that for the entire car, let alone half the hood. It was at this point I realized I was in for a bit of work. It took several passes with ironx and clay bar to get rid of 98% of contanamints stuck to the paint. I was stunned how much kept coming off. This was a "new" car.

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After that, used some car pro eraser to make sure the paint was surgically clean to apply coating. Just like painting, any dust or oils left from all this work will lessen the coating ability to stick to adhere to the paint.

I went with kamikaze line of products as it is highly recommended, and many "pro" detailers use these products, at the same time its possible for us consumers to get our hands on them.

2 coats of miyabl which is stupid easy to apply and take off. One of the simplest coatings i've used. Apply, wait about 10 minutes and buff off. It comes off with same ease as carnuba wax.
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After that, I applied 1 thick coat of ISM. This stuff is a bit different, I understand now why they say it is for "pro detailers only" on it. It goes on quite thick, so it is very grabby, it pulls on your applicator making it hard to apply an even coat. It is also harder to tell when to take it off, so waited about 6 minutes which is what it states. It also doesn't flash like most other coatings, it "sweats" so has this dripping liquid type look to it.

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Takes a lot more elbow grease and a few plush microfiber towels to remove. Since it was so hard to see what areas were done and buffed, and which weren't buffed completely I did miss a stop on the edge of the hood. Luckily it had only been sitting 30mins so didn't full cure, but I couldn't buff it out. Reading online they say just put more of this stuff down and let it sit, then buff... thank god that worked.

Miyabi has a different type of shine as well. More of a deep darkening look. ISM is definitely more of a hard candy shine.

Had this dog there to supervise everything.
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Iphone doesn't really pick up the finish product well, especially as the sun was setting.

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I will say this color is definitely interesting. It is gray but does have some blueish hue going on in different shades of light.

My guess is the car had been sitting out with the dealer for quite sometime, it had under 20 miles on it so it wasn't driven a ton. Whoever they had detail it did an above average job, didn't mess up the paint, left it pretty clean.
 
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looking into doing something like this myself ... how long did you have to let it cure inside
 
looking into doing something like this myself ... how long did you have to let it cure inside
Curing inside for 24hours is great, but the real key is simply keeping it away from water. It will usually take a full week before a coating is fully done. Since I've got my DD, going to keep it undercover for a day, after that I don't have to worry about rain so should all be good.
 
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Your's looks great.

Considering doing same thing

What was the total cost other than obviously time and sweat you put in?

sure I got a lot of work to do since i got ~300 miles .... and car sits outside so pollen and all ...
 
Your's looks great.

Considering doing same thing

What was the total cost other than obviously time and sweat you put in?

sure I got a lot of work to do since i got ~300 miles .... and car sits outside so pollen and all ...
Around $200 in coatings, eraser is like $15, plush buffing towels (need a few) around $20, ironx and claybar (and lubricant) $35ish, and $10 in suede applicators. So roughly in the neighborhood of $300. I'd say having used 22ple HPC, which you can get for $150 seemed to be damn near on par with kamikaze. Downside to HPC was you had to wait 12 hours before applying each coat.
 
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Great choice going with the Kamikaze. The paint looks great!
 
So been over a week, the coating should have fully cured and hardened by now. Decided to give it another quick bath. It certainly didn't need one, besides some light dust after a week of driving nothing seemed to stick to the paint.

Quick video I did of the water beading off... I'm actually very impressed.

 
I got my Stinger on Thursday, finally arrived after sitting in Alabama for a few weeks waiting for delivery truck to ship it. So today I dedicated to really cleaning it and protecting it.

This is it getting off the truck
xBDQu2T.jpg


iTbXYfY.jpg


Looks pretty clean. I could not find any of the usual dealer treatments like swirl marks, or paint chipping whatsoever.

So first step is to give it a good wash, and then put some Ironx on the car to get off any ferrite particles stuck to the paint. It turns red/purple on any of these materials as it loosens them off. Kinda hard to see from the picture but actually a decent mount.

gL4dNjZ.jpg


That is one section of the hood and then after cleaning off the ironx I proceed to clay bar. To my amazement, in just half the hood this is how much came off.

xoqP77g.jpg


When I got my Golf R, it was less than that for the entire car, let alone half the hood. It was at this point I realized I was in for a bit of work. It took several passes with ironx and clay bar to get rid of 98% of contanamints stuck to the paint. I was stunned how much kept coming off. This was a "new" car.

l2ZqpuA.jpg


After that, used some car pro eraser to make sure the paint was surgically clean to apply coating. Just like painting, any dust or oils left from all this work will lessen the coating ability to stick to adhere to the paint.

I went with kamikaze line of products as it is highly recommended, and many "pro" detailers use these products, at the same time its possible for us consumers to get our hands on them.

2 coats of miyabl which is stupid easy to apply and take off. One of the simplest coatings i've used. Apply, wait about 10 minutes and buff off. It comes off with same ease as carnuba wax.
1nmQutD.jpg


After that, I applied 1 thick coat of ISM. This stuff is a bit different, I understand now why they say it is for "pro detailers only" on it. It goes on quite thick, so it is very grabby, it pulls on your applicator making it hard to apply an even coat. It is also harder to tell when to take it off, so waited about 6 minutes which is what it states. It also doesn't flash like most other coatings, it "sweats" so has this dripping liquid type look to it.

9bZX0xE.jpg


Takes a lot more elbow grease and a few plush microfiber towels to remove. Since it was so hard to see what areas were done and buffed, and which weren't buffed completely I did miss a stop on the edge of the hood. Luckily it had only been sitting 30mins so didn't full cure, but I couldn't buff it out. Reading online they say just put more of this stuff down and let it sit, then buff... thank god that worked.

Miyabi has a different type of shine as well. More of a deep darkening look. ISM is definitely more of a hard candy shine.

Had this dog there to supervise everything.
OK9gQzX.jpg



Iphone doesn't really pick up the finish product well, especially as the sun was setting.

qViiJzr.jpg


905MosG.jpg


I will say this color is definitely interesting. It is gray but does have some blueish hue going on in different shades of light.

My guess is the car had been sitting out with the dealer for quite sometime, it had under 20 miles on it so it wasn't driven a ton. Whoever they had detail it did an above average job, didn't mess up the paint, left it pretty clean.
Looks great! Is that stock suspension height? I believe you are going to say yes , I dont know if it is just me but few recent owners have looked lower (less wheel gap) then past photos. RWD? They say both are same height but to me looks as if RWD is lower.
 
Looks great! Is that stock suspension height? I believe you are going to say yes , I dont know if it is just me but few recent owners have looked lower (less wheel gap) then past photos. RWD? They say both are same height but to me looks as if RWD is lower.
Maybe just the 19" offset rear wheel.
 
I meant stagger, but that would not change the looks of the front.
 
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Looks great! Is that stock suspension height? I believe you are going to say yes , I dont know if it is just me but few recent owners have looked lower (less wheel gap) then past photos. RWD? They say both are same height but to me looks as if RWD is lower.
Nope not lowered, this was the car yesterday if you want to see better pic.

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That looks amazing. I've made an appointment to have my Stinger covered in opti-coat and your post almost has me reconsidering it. Almost because I really don't want to mess up the car's finish and my prior attempts at claying and using Mckee's 37 paint coating have been underwhelming (and usually end with me fixing the job with Klasse AIO).

P.S. Love the dog. :)
 
That looks amazing. I've made an appointment to have my Stinger covered in opti-coat and your post almost has me reconsidering it. Almost because I really don't want to mess up the car's finish and my prior attempts at claying and using Mckee's 37 paint coating have been underwhelming (and usually end with me fixing the job with Klasse AIO).

P.S. Love the dog. :)
I totally get why people would have this done professionally, i mean this was a very long day. Realistically it should be a two day job, but I was fairly lucky and didn't need to polish. Ironx is great, makes using clay bar a lot easier as it removes a lot of the junk on the paint. For whatever reason though my car had a lot of contaminates on the paint.

I've used a few mckee's products and they've been good, but yeah their paint coating isn't all that highly rated. I would recommend what I did with kamikaze products EXCEPT for the fact that the last step with ISM was pretty difficult. It goes on like a thick glue so it is hard to spread evenly, and it is very grabby on the towels when removing it so I went through quite a few plush microfiber towels. If you do decide to do it yourself route I would suggest 22ple HPC. I used that on my last car and it was awesome. Easy to apply and take off because of the way it cures, it gave it a nice hard glassy look, and if properly maintained can easily surpass 3+ years.
 
So you wouldn’t suggest for most people to go the kamikaze route ? Was looking into that but doesn’t seem like Anyone other than esoteric sells their stuff and they don’t have it in stock
 
So you wouldn’t suggest for most people to go the kamikaze route ? Was looking into that but doesn’t seem like Anyone other than esoteric sells their stuff and they don’t have it in stock
It's very popular in the high end detailing world which is why it sells out very quickly. That being said it is great stuff, but is it head and shoulders better than what my previous favorite 22ple hpc was... no. If someone has applied coatings before than Kamikaze is absolutely doable, just go slow and understand what you are getting into. If they haven't i'd go HPC or gtechnique crystal serum + exoV3 everyday.
 
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It's very popular in the high end detailing world which is why it sells out very quickly. That being said it is great stuff, but is it head and shoulders better than what my previous favorite 22ple hpc was... no. If someone has applied coatings before than Kamikaze is absolutely doable, just go slow and understand what you are getting into. If they haven't i'd go HPC or gtechnique crystal serum + exoV3 everyday.
Haven’t applied one before but sure I’m going to have my work cut out for me already since first month haven’t done it yet and can’t really use my garage to park my car

Guess I’ll look into those 2

Do you have any opinions on cquartz 3.0 and gliss or gyeon synchro ?
 
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Haven’t applied one before but sure I’m going to have my work cut out for me already since first month haven’t done it yet and can’t really use my garage to park my car

Guess I’ll look into those 2

Do you have any opinions on cquartz 3.0 and gliss or gyeon synchro ?
Definitely need at least a place with shade to do all this, and a garage would be ideal obviously. If you don't need to really polish than it is about decontamination (ironx and clay bar), gyeon prep after that to make sure no oils or residue remains on the paint, then applying the coating which depending on the layers can take a couple of hours. Ideally you'd like to let it sit for 24hours to let it cure/harden; but realistically the number one thing to worry about is water. Need to keep it away from water for a good 5-7 days while it fully cures. Luckily my climate where I live means it rains for 3.5mins a year.

I tried cquartz once and I agree with what many enthusiast say about them... its solid but to me there are better stuff out there. I found it similar to kamikaze ism very grabby and difficult to remove. Not quite ISM difficult but still...

I like gyeon products, their applicators, ironx, bathe+, prep, rim, and gyeon one coating i've used before. Pretty simple and solid to apply. For the price I like their products.

This guy is awesome, does very thorough reviews and has tried a lot of products. Doesn't run a store or anything so he isn't biased. The stuff I've tried that he has used I found I was left with identical impressions which means that I can trust what he says.
Think I`m done messing around with coatings, final thoughts...

The reason I tell people HPC is the same he says about it. The product is amazingly easy to use (besides the part where if you want to apply layers it takes 24hours, i waited 12). It goes on smooth, and as it cures it leaves a nice haze for you to buff away making it easy to see where you've not buffed properly. That to me is the most challenging part of applying a coating, is ensuring you've buffed it off completely because if you haven't and you let it harden hours or days later... you are in for some work. Top it off with the fact it is rated for high durability, and the gloss was excellent; can't really ask for much more.
 
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Miyabi is back in stock! I placed an order and will give it a try before giving up and having a professional use opti-coat.
 
Miyabi is back in stock! I placed an order and will give it a try before giving up and having a professional use opti-coat.
You'll like Miyabi, very easy to use. Some people like products that "flash" quickly, say like 60 seconds or so, I personally like coatings that give you more time like 5 to 10 minutes. I prefer that because I can continue applying to other parts of the car, vs having to go from apply, to stop and buff off, then go back to apply, etc. Also I could have done maybe 3 coats of miyabi with that amount of product. More likely would have done the standard 2, and maybe a third on the flat sections of the car like the hood and tail.

If you miss a spot that you didn't buff out properly, you can always reapply miyabi to that area, let it sit, and then go back and buff off again. That saved me in one spot.
 
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