3.3TT Oil Leak

[ElChanclo]

I soon learned that the only way to fix it is to remove the engine, transmission and associated goodness. My car was out of commission for about 1.5 weeks to replace the seal.

And now you have to hope and pray that the techs at the dealership know how to remove a stinger engine and put it all back together WITHOUT SCREWING ANYTHING UP. I'd be losing so much sleep after getting the car back...

 

[RUFFSTUFF]

And now you have to hope and pray that the techs at the dealership know how to remove a stinger engine and put it all back together WITHOUT SCREWING ANYTHING UP. I'd be losing so much sleep after getting the car back...

Well, seeing as I now have 38000 miles on the car... I'm not worried.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Do it then, for goodness sake. Don't say it, quivelling in limbo. Then there will be peace between brethren. Geez Louise.

Ignore MTM. Seriously.

I would like an answer to my question of why one would suspect water in the oil instead of the more likely one of the service guys overfilling it. I don't see "oozing" oil as enough volume loss to account for a half a quart too high. So, what exactly is it that would get water into the oil? It sounds to me like that would a major failing in the car to cause that. In a brand new car? So, the gasket install wasn't perfect; and oil is oozing through; and they put too much oil in. Why suspect a major, incredibly unlikely major, failure instead?

 

[ZilWin]

There's no coolant in the oil. I checked. Thanks for the help, I'll let you know what I find when I sort out the leaky sump and pans and why the coolant level is low.

 

[RUFFSTUFF]

There's no coolant in the oil. I checked. Thanks for the help, I'll let you know what I find when I sort out the leaky sump and pans and why the coolant level is low.

Look at the area near the radiator cap (on the left) for signs of coolant leakage. My quick connect hoses from the radiator were leaking and were replaced under warranty. This was causing me to lose coolant.

 

[5tinger]

OP what is the build date of your Stinger?

 

[RUFFSTUFF]

OP what is the build date of your Stinger?

10/18

 

[General_Vodka]

The coolant in oil broblem is a serious one but the stinger is pretty protected from that. You see it's very common in cars that have a combined oil and coolant radiator. Our car has it separate. However if your oil starts to look like a milkshake then it's time to call the junkyard because your engine is scrap.

 

[ZilWin]

The coolant in oil broblem is a serious one but the stinger is pretty protected from that. You see it's very common in cars that have a combined oil and coolant radiator. Our car has it separate. However if your oil starts to look like a milkshake then it's time to call the junkyard because your engine is scrap.

I pulled a quart off the bottom of the sump and there's no coolant in the oil. The car is at the dealers for the oil leak and overfill evaluation and repair. i got a condescending response from the service rep about the coolant overflow being empty like i didn't know that it works as an expansion chamber and that the level will vary with the temp of the engine coolant and pressures. Apparently he thinks EMPTY is an acceptable level in that bottle. i suppose the Low/Cold and High/Hot marks are for looks rather than functionality.

 

[ZilWin]

Update: The overfilled oil is due to gas being forced into the crankcase by a defective high pressure fuel pump. I guess my intuition that something was getting into the oil was correct, it just wasn't coolant. Dealer is replacing the high pressure fuel pump and they are replacing some o-rings and gaskets to repair the oil pan leak. I will speculate that the pan leak is due to the gas in the oil getting past the gaskets. I wonder how many lifetime miles I have lost on the engine with contaminated oil being pumped around as lubricant. I'd like to know why, if the fuel pump pressure was forcing gas through the piston rings or into the lubrication side of the system through something, why an O2 sensor or something didn't sense too rich a mixture and throw a code? Sounds like a pretty major malfunction to not throw something out of whack.
Low coolant in the overflow bottle is still a mystery but they did test it and the system cycles the way it should.

 

[ZilWin]

Update: 500 miles later and the oil is again 'overfilled' with gas in the oil sump. Car is back at the dealer for another two weeks so far with no resolution or solution path for the issue in sight. i am waiting for Kia engineering to 'get involved". I guess I have been 'stung' by the Stinger as neither the dealer nor Kia seems to want to admit there is a major issue with this vehicle. i have already explained to the service manager that I am getting close to the end of my patience as Kia and the dealer needs to step up and do the right thing to get this resolved and make me whole again.

 

[ChaneRZ]

lemon the car already haha and get a new one.

 

[ZilWin]

lemon the car already haha and get a new one.

I am getting to that point. At this point anything less than a buyback, a new car, or at least a new engine is not acceptable.

 

[NS_Stinger]

I am getting to that point. At this point anything less than a buyback, a new car, or at least a new engine is not acceptable.

Out of curiosity how did this story end?

 

[ElChanclo]

Out of curiosity how did this story end?

ZilWin​

Newish Member · 70
Joined Sep 26, 2018
Last seen Jul 8, 2020

He's either enjoying a trouble free stinger, or he dumped it and is done with the brand.

 

[TerdBath]

Prob dumped it or would still be here.