NOS Stinger 650 hp from Tork Motorsports

[Whiteybird]

Yes the JB4 has N20 control, although not enabled for the Stinger yet. A lot of BMW guys run it.

Since the BMW guys have it, theoretically, couldn't the stinger guys? We already have the WMI integration. I'm not sure how hard it would be to add it, if it would have to be hardwired to the board or empty pin slot. That's your level of expertise, not mine.

 

[Whytiptoe]

Interested in how or what the JB4 can do with the N2O, mainly just for knowledge, but possibly the addition.

 

[Whiteybird]

Interested in how or what the JB4 can do with the N2O, mainly just for knowledge, but possibly the addition.

The BMW guys have pretty good control over it, being able to set control limits, AFR engagement, cutoff's, etc. Lots of "Safety" features. Its pretty trick on the mobile side.

 

[turboAWD]

Erhm... If you're filling it every few weeks, you should probably just cut your lead foot off, lol

In all seriousness: just don't have any liquids filled until you're planning to go to the track. Fill them up, change tune mode, and off you go. And if you don't use it all up, just leave it. It's there if your lead foot grows back, and then you'll just have to amputate again once the reservoirs run dry

So far, I've been to the track exactly once as an observer in my life, and I don't expect NOS to be useful when running laps in HPDEs or auto-x (also done that once). Installing NOS because I MIGHT run a 1/4 once in my life, but having an empty bottle there all the time.... totally wrong application for *MY* life. I need/want something that will be used 98% daily driving, 2% on track.

 

[turboAWD]

With WMI you can ditch the E85. So far WMI is slightly less annoying than using E85. My E85 is 20 miles away so i usually stock up in gas cans.
They are both a little annoying but you only use the WMI when you get on it where you are burning the E cruising.

E85 is around the corner at my "normal" gas station - we fill up our Flex-fuel Pentastar minivan there too.. Their normal islands are 2 pumps per side. The E85/Diesel pump replaces one of the regular pumps, so it's literally: add 4-5 gallons E85, drive 10-12 feet forward/backward (depending on the side), fill with 91. The only somewhat annoying thing is that I wish the tank held 3-4 more gallons..

Edit: And sometimes, the price isn't quite inline with 1/3 less energy.. (i.e. a bit too expensive)

WMI is at least one order of magnitude more complex as it stands - adding a new container, dealing with somewhat hazardous materials, etc...

CPI would also be relatively easy for me - one-time install, fill up to E50-E60 and go, as I understand it..

 

[Kimberly Lazarski]

I feel like I remember a engineer for this car on here saying the trans limit was around 500ft/lbs so this is probably toeing the line. Would love to see what this setup would put down for a 1/4mile and 0-60 run.

The number cited was 1000nm, iirc, which is 737.56 lb ft of torque.

 

[Terry@BMS]

Since the BMW guys have it, theoretically, couldn't the stinger guys? We already have the WMI integration. I'm not sure how hard it would be to add it, if it would have to be hardwired to the board or empty pin slot. That's your level of expertise, not mine.

I'd have to do the work to port over the programming and logic. It's pretty slick, can cut N20 flow during shifts to keep trans alive, deactivate if AFR goes over a preset point or if timing falls below a preset point (e.g. knock). But it would be a project. I don't see N20 really catching on for the Stinger. On the BMW side the guys running it have built motors, large single turbos that spool slowly and use N20 to assist spool, etc. Like 800whp+ cars.

 

[ZyroXZ2]

So far, I've been to the track exactly once as an observer in my life, and I don't expect NOS to be useful when running laps in HPDEs or auto-x (also done that once). Installing NOS because I MIGHT run a 1/4 once in my life, but having an empty bottle there all the time.... totally wrong application for *MY* life. I need/want something that will be used 98% daily driving, 2% on track.

It's starting to look more like you're trying to speak out against NOS than anything else... For someone who only goes to the track 2% of the time, it's an odd example to use when you're already going through the trouble of separate E85 filling/mixing to get more power. It's like you seek the power without the inconvenience, but this is kind of what happens when you want to mod a car well beyond its factory intentions...

 

[turboAWD]

It's starting to look more like you're trying to speak out against NOS than anything else... For someone who only goes to the track 2% of the time, it's an odd example to use when you're already going through the trouble of separate E85 filling/mixing to get more power. It's like you seek the power without the inconvenience, but this is kind of what happens when you want to mod a car well beyond its factory intentions...

Not trying to speak out against NOS as such - just that it feels impractical for MY usage profile. I don't even know where I'd fill a NOS bottle where I currently live, etc.. And if it's MAIN benefit is in the 1/4 mile (45-60 seconds per bottle), then I'd really never see any benefit out of it.

Whereas others have a different driving profile and may get a HUGE benefit for 1/4 mile times and do that 3-4 times/month. I guess I maybe felt like this thread was almost a poll to see who is interested in NOS, and I'm picking the "not really for me" option. Maybe that's going further than warranted, and if so, my bad. Not trying to discredit anyone or any specific technology - they all have their place.

 

[Not Here Anymore]

Damn that looks good!
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Looks interesting indeed, just like to have a bottle for emergencies ( 75 hp shot ) ha ha , just got my tailed kicked by WRX late this summer gone by lol

 

[Dreadnaut12]

That's a lot a powah!

 

[Toddasaurus]

Looks interesting indeed, just like to have a bottle for emergencies ( 75 hp shot ) ha ha , just got my tailed kicked by WRX late this summer gone by lol

Waaahhht, how'd a WRX beat you... He had to be built, right? Explain yourself!!!!!

 

[Not Here Anymore]

Waaahhht, how'd a WRX beat you... He had to be built, right? Explain yourself!!!!!

Yeah I think he was setup just right I guess ,and mine went into limp mode but I will have that fixed very soon with a ECU flash MY piggy back was not designed for all the bolt on s , so it need s to be changed lol

 

[turboAWD]

Waaahhht, how'd a WRX beat you... He had to be built, right? Explain yourself!!!!!

One word: Racechip...

 

[Kimberly Lazarski]

Waaahhht, how'd a WRX beat you... He had to be built, right? Explain yourself!!!!!

The WRX has a TON of aftermarket support, the drivetrain easily handles well over 600whp (there are many 800whp builds) and even though the stock internals may as well be made of glass, get yourself a closed-deck IAG short block and you've got a platform that is good to well over 900bhp,,, but you're going to be spending about $22K by the time you're done. I almost went with a WRX STI planning to do a build with an IAG block aiming for 500whp (I wanted snappy throttle response and low end torque with oomph through the stock redline, so it would have required twin-scroll turbines rather than big turbos for high-RPM power that ends up unstreetable)... then I realized I didn't want to spend $48,860 on a 310hp car that has an econobox interior and not even surround cameras and other basic safety features, and for any kind of tune beyond the most mild I'll have to get a whole new shortblock due to the crappy cast internals and faulty bearing design. The DCCT is a strong selling point, but not enough to make up for the stone-age STI's shortcomings.

But yes.. WRXes can be SERIOUSLY fast if you throw enough money at them. You can make them fast really cheap, but it will crack a case half or head, or something else equally catastrophic.

 

[Not Here Anymore]

Just set got my speed shop This afternoon to set up a STage 1 mild tune and with my few mod s , it should run 430 whp with the flash tune ,much better than my 356 whp I have now and perhaps still hit 460 ftlbs of torque and least it will be more balanced out

 

[Not Here Anymore]

I don't think NOS fits in to my #stealthlife policy. Although the tank would fit where the spare tire goes.....
I'll let others test this out first.

Hi Tim , I just put in for a Stage 1 ECU flash , which should do for my DD car

 

[Toddasaurus]

Hi Tim , I just put in for a Stage 1 ECU flash , which should do for my DD car

I'm interest to see how it turns out and what you think. Let us know, or even just DM me and let me know once you get it!! Been considering either the PRESSERTech tune or the Tork tune.

 

[Pnasty]

my inner fast and furious is tingling

 

[Not Here Anymore]

I'm interest to see how it turns out and what you think. Let us know, or even just DM me and let me know once you get it!! Been considering either the PRESSERTech tune or the Tork tune.

Yes I sure it will make things interesting, most likely it will balance out my torque and whp a lot closer than 356 whp /502 ftlbs torque I have now , to a more reasonable value of approximately 430whp /460 ftlbs torque