New Stinger HP record 517whp!

[StungBlueGT2]

Congrats to @Blueberry_gt for setting another HP record for our Stingers!

I know this is a touchy subject for some people so before anyone posts their disagreements or arguments let me clarify.

This is an official Dynojet result from @1kmotorsports for a stock turbo Stinger GT with WMI, but no NOS. Unless I’m mistaken 517whp STD is the highest WHP result shared with the public so far, and is the current record for our Stingers until proven otherwise. This is the first Stinger to break 600bhp without NOS, or big/hybrid turbos and is very impressive for a piggyback Stinger with a few bolt-ons.

This Stinger is almost FBO but doesn’t have an intercooler. It has a lap3v2, intakes, catless exhaust and WMI.

This is great progress for our Stinger platform and can’t wait to see what Mike comes up with next. Go team Stinger!

 

[Kimberly Lazarski]

I'd like to see the numbers from a run on a heartbreaker dyno. Regardless, that is remarkable and is exactly what I want out of a Stinger, except I'd like our species to stick around for a while so I'm going to keep the cats on the car.

How much would you lose from that number by going with high-flow cats rather than ditching them altogether?

 

[Terry@BMS]

Congrats to OP. In my opinion still seems like a "happy" dyno as another car running identical tuning and modifications recently posted 480whp. I'd suggest he take some 60-130mph runs and see where it stands. JB4 owns the current stock turbo record at 9.18s.

 

[Thorne]

Typically in my experiance Dynojets tend to read within 3% of each other, We tested this back in ohio by running the same 3 cars on 3 diffrent dynojets in the same day, including a RWD / AWD non linked / AWD linked(inrwd so nonlinked at the time). Unlike mustangs which have a tq sensor DJ's are based on inertia. So as long as the drum weights are set right and your running as close to 1:1 AND the weather stack is good AKA the dyno is in proper working order they should read the same. This is why NASA racing league used to use them as there primary verifcation for power to weight and would keep a dyno at the track for validation.

Good numbers! Now lets see some 1/4 times or 60-130


I could go on a two hour rant about Mustang Dynos and there stupid calibration weights that no one actually seems to verify. Everytime I hear about a heartbreaker I alwasy think to myself DID they weight the calirbation weight because even thought it says 50 in the manual ours was 47.... We also had Buschur Racing's old MD the supposed heartbreaker. Funny enough when I calibrated it properly per Mustangs procedures it read very close to our dynojet.

 

[hughanis]

What's the 0-60 and 1/4?

 

[Hockster]

I don't think anyone in that group ever ran on anything other than a dyno.

 

[StungBlueGT2]

I'd like to see the numbers from a run on a heartbreaker dyno. Regardless, that is remarkable and is exactly what I want out of a Stinger, except I'd like our species to stick around for a while so I'm going to keep the cats on the car.

How much would you lose from that number by going with high-flow cats rather than ditching them altogether?

Unfortunately load bearing dynos like heartbreaker dynos can vary significantly depending on their settings, but on average they run around 10-12% lower. So about 440-455whp on a Mustang dyno, dyno-dynamics or similar.

The gains from catless DPs vary but seem to be in the 30-50whp range. I know the UltimatePerformance DP combo with high flow cats gained 33whp peak and 46whp max.

I don’t think there would be a huge difference between catless and highflow cats, besides quicker spooling and hitting boost harder initially. So probably 15-20whp at max between the two and you’d still be around 500whp.

Congrats to OP. In my opinion still seems like a "happy" dyno as another car running identical tuning and modifications recently posted 480whp. I'd suggest he take some 60-130mph runs and see where it stands. JB4 owns the current stock turbo record at 9.18s.

I know his 490whp non WMI was using a “kill mode” custom tuned map not the standard preset maps so this WMI map may be a custom one too.

He said he was going to do some 60-130s very soon but his DA has been around 2000 lately and the top 5 are all around -1000 or 3k less.

Any way to convert times so they match others DAs? Didnt you run a mid 9sec 60-130 before? If so what was your DA?

What's the 0-60 and 1/4?

He ran a couple low 4s 0-60 without WMI, but kept roasting the tires so he gave up on digs. However he did say he may try to get some drag radials and hit a track in the near future.

 

[Kato_the_kia_stinger]

People still compare their dyno numbers with one another? I prefer to compare my new dyno numbers with me old dyno numbers. I guess I’m silly like that. Lol. Nice numbers by the way!

 

[Vortex951]

Unfortunately load bearing dynos like heartbreaker dynos can vary significantly depending on their settings, but on average they run around 10-12% lower. So about 440-455whp on a Mustang dyno, dyno-dynamics or similar.

The gains from catless DPs vary but seem to be in the 30-50whp range. I know the UltimatePerformance DP combo with high flow cats gained 33whp peak and 46whp max.
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I don’t think there would be a huge difference between catless and highflow cats, besides quicker spooling and hitting boost harder initially. So probably 15-20whp at max between the two and you’d still be around 500whp.

I know his 490whp non WMI was using a “kill mode” custom tuned map not the standard preset maps so this WMI map may be a custom one too.

He said he was going to do some 60-130s very soon but his DA has been around 2000 lately and the top 5 are all around -1000 or 3k less.

Any way to convert times so they match others DAs? Didnt you run a mid 9sec 60-130 before? If so what was your DA?

He ran a couple low 4s 0-60 without WMI, but kept roasting the tires so he gave up on digs. However he did say he may try to get some drag radials and hit a track in the near future.

Sub 4 will be doable if he is using a burnout switch. I have a rwd g70. Got a 4.02 on draggy with a track slip 1.72 60’. Burn out into mid third gear then launched it extremely hard. I have 285 wide sport cup 2s on 20 inch wheels as well. Not the best drag set up. I had good amounts of wheel hop/spin. Practice practice practice and it will be done. But in my opinion only way this is going to happen consistently for a rwd is at a track that is prepped very well.

 

[Terry@BMS]

I haven't run any 60-130 runs on our development car recently, best on the old setup @ 460whp was 9.8s in 1500' DA. My old private track closed so I'm waiting for a new one to open up and will get back to it.

60-130mph runs will let you now if you're at least in the ball park with the faster cars out there. They are running 9.2s at around 480-490whp.

 

[Kato_the_kia_stinger]

I haven't run any 60-130 runs on our development car recently, best on the old setup @ 460whp was 9.8s in 1500' DA. My old private track closed so I'm waiting for a new one to open up and will get back to it.

60-130mph runs will let you now if you're at least in the ball park with the faster cars out there. They are running 9.2s at around 480-490whp.

I would kill for a chance to try a 1/2 mile track. Then, we can see some really good stuff.

 

[StungBlueGT2]

People still compare their dyno numbers with one another? I prefer to compare my new dyno numbers with me old dyno numbers. I guess I’m silly like that. Lol. Nice numbers by the way!

I agree, dyno results are best used for measuring gains on individual cars after mods & tunes. However almost everyone, including manufactures compare and brag about HP/TQ dyno results. They routinely advertise "most HP in its class", etc. and performance cars are constantly one upping its competition by a few HP every year. So comparing dyno numbers whether its engine dynos like manufacturers, or wheel dynos like tuners/shops, is actually really popular across the world.

Also having tuners compete for those bragging rights just like quickest 0-60, 60-130 & 1/4m will not only benefit our Stinger platform it will also increase its recognition as a serious performance car. The Supra didnt get the reputation it has now until they started making huge power(1000 WHP+) and running single digits in the 1/4m. Either way this friendly competition will only help our Stingers and I'm happy to be a part of that progress.

I haven't run any 60-130 runs on our development car recently, best on the old setup @ 460whp was 9.8s in 1500' DA. My old private track closed so I'm waiting for a new one to open up and will get back to it.

60-130mph runs will let you now if you're at least in the ball park with the faster cars out there. They are running 9.2s at around 480-490whp.

Thats impressive especially with just intakes & WMI. Was that a dragy or track slip, and any chance you still have it?

Yeah I know thats a good way to gauge top end power without traction issues, but know temp and DA make a noticeable impact on those results. Arent the 9.2s running negative 1000+ DA's and really low temps? Wish there was a way to convert what that would be with 2000+ DA and 90deg temps.

 

[eflyguy]

This is getting close to the 600hp (iirc) crank estimate once tuners started messing with them, and also when someone got a look at the lower end of an engine that had been opened up.

 

[MisterMac]

Need a video of the car running on the dyno and of the output or it didn't happen. It's could be a different make/model car altogether...

In the words of Dr. House, everybody lies...

 

[Terry@BMS]

Tracks can't record 60-130. Not sure if I saved any of those old runs. Doesn't matter as the car is faster now, when I can will get some updated numbers.

 

[StungBlueGT2]

This is getting close to the 600hp (iirc) crank estimate once tuners started messing with them, and also when someone got a look at the lower end of an engine that had been opened up.

Yeah his 517whp is a little over that and about 610BHP(crank)

Need a video of the car running on the dyno and of the output or it didn't happen. It's could be a different make/model car altogether...
In the words of Dr. House, everybody lies...

Wish you weren’t such a hater and he did have a live video of the whole dyno test on IG. Here’s a screenshot I got while several of us were chatting with him during the first of 3 runs.

Good numbers! Now lets see some 1/4 times or 60-130

Heres one of his first couple attempts at a 60-130. So far he’s 0.2 quicker than Johns stage2 Tork tuned Stinger, and only 0.4 behind the quickest stock turbo Stingers on Dragy. And that’s at almost 80deg & about 2000 higher DA. With the same conditions as the leaders he should be similar or little quicker than the record holder.

 

[StungBlueGT2]

Here is @Blueberry_gt vs a Hellcat on a 40-120 roll. He stayed side by side until about 110 and the Hellcat only got a half car by 120. Super impressive vs a 707hp muscle car!

 

[Rob 02]

Tork’s stage 2 60-130 is 8.9 now.

 

[Terry@BMS]

You mean Tork Stage2 + JB4 for the 8.9s? Shocker alert, looks like Tork again failed to mention the JB4 helped set "their" new record.

As for the lap3 517whp at 9.6s, the JB4 cars are at 9.2s at 500whp. As expected looks like everyone is in the same ballpark with the JB4 ahead of the pack.

 

[Nuthadey]

You mean Tork Stage2 + JB4 for the 8.9s? Shocker alert, looks like Tork again failed to mention the JB4 helped set "their" new record.

He didn't just fail to mention it. He flat out claimed the JB4 did nothing more than data log the run. According to him the JB4 did nothing to help set the record.