How to lock the key in the car?

[pkarandi]

Is there a way to lock the car with the key fob inside? My Stinger is at the shop right now and I probably need to pick it up tonight after the shop closes. I'm worried that the proximity sensor will enable anyone to simply push the button on the door and it will open. (Of course, I plan to show up after hours with my spare key).

 

[SIMONGUEY]

Is there a way to lock the car with the key fob inside? My Stinger is at the shop right now and I probably need to pick it up tonight after the shop closes. I'm worried that the proximity sensor will enable anyone to simply push the button on the door and it will open. (Of course, I plan to show up after hours with my spare key).

Interesting question. I personally don't know. but I have left my keys in the exhaust once lol.

 

[pkarandi]

... but I have left my keys in the exhaust once lol.

Not a bad idea! I may ask my shop to do that, as it closes in a couple of hours.

 

[ThunderBoy724]

I don't think you can lock the doors from the outside when the fob is on the inside. If you push the button on the door handle when the fob is inside it will not lock the doors (or unlock the doors which would make being safely locked inside your car useless). Also if the fob is inside or even in your pocket while the door is open and you press the door lock button on the door panel it will not lock the doors.

 

[JSolo]

How about using door lock switch inside to lock the doors, leave fob inside. Would it unlock as soon as the door closes?

 

[ThunderBoy724]

How about using door lock switch inside to lock the doors, leave fob inside. Would it unlock as soon as the door closes?

I think that if you press the door lock button with the door open it will not lock the doors.

 

[MerlintheMad]

I think that if you press the door lock button with the door open it will not lock the doors.

It will, as long as the fob is outside the doors. I push the armrest lock button all the time (in my driveway, to spare the mirror motors), with the fob hanging on a carabiner on my belt.

 

[7Andrei7]

They could leave it in the trunk.
At least the doors would be locked and they would not unlock by pressing on the handle button since the key is considered inside the car.
However, the trunk would unlock if you manually try to open it and the key is inside. Or at least I hope so )

 

[pkarandi]

Thanks for all the feedback everyone. Actually, the shop owner had a clever idea, that I believe worked beautifully! He said he does this all the time by wrapping the key in aluminum foil!

This morning we went to pick up the car. To test it, I had my wife hold key fob 2 in her car, and I walked up to my Stinger and pressed the button on the door handle. Nothing. Car was still locked. I grabbed key fob 2, and clicked the unlock button and all was well!

When I have a few minutes, I want to do some more testing with it, but I wanted to update this thread to offer a simple solution to this issue! One thing to note: he put the key in the glove box and it was well wrapped by the aluminum foil, not just a single layer. He probably used a good foot or so of aluminum foil to wrap it.

 

[JSolo]

^^KISS! Brilliant.

 

[MerlintheMad]

I keep my spare fob wrapped in foil, just not inside the car.

 

[JSolo]

^^I keep my spare fob separated, with battery removed. Hopefully keeps battery from running down and any superfluous signals from radiating. Did the same with the second G fob. When I sold the car 8 years later, original fob battery still worked in it.

 

[7Andrei7]

@pkarandi but how did he lock the car after putting the key in the glovebox? I was under the impression it should be impossible to lock yourself outside with the key inside.

 

[Legendsk]

@pkarandi but how did he lock the car after putting the key in the glovebox? I was under the impression it should be impossible to lock yourself outside with the key inside.

It is impossible AFAIK, to lock yourself outside the car if the car detects the fob inside the car. The point of wrapping the fob in aluminum foil is to prevent it from radiating electrical signals that the car can detect. Then put the foil wrapped fob in the glove box so it won't be visible to someone outside the car, who might guess that it contains the fob.

 

[pkarandi]

@pkarandi but how did he lock the car after putting the key in the glovebox? I was under the impression it should be impossible to lock yourself outside with the key inside.

It is impossible AFAIK, to lock yourself outside the car if the car detects the fob inside the car. The point of wrapping the fob in aluminum foil is to prevent it from radiating electrical signals that the car can detect. Then put the foil wrapped fob in the glove box so it won't be visible to someone outside the car, who might guess that it contains the fob.

Yes, I believe @Legendsk is right. I'm guessing he put the wrapped key fob in the glove box, then hit the lock button on the inside of the door, and then shut the door. (If you're young, you may not realize that's how we used to always lock the car in the 90's )

 

[JSolo]

Brings back memories. In the really old days, each door had each of these (circled in red). Note the door panel is not cluttered with a bunch of switches. It was considered a luxury to have a remote right mirror. Or even to have a right mirror.

 

[pkarandi]

YES!!! I think that is the interior of an early 80's Oldsmobile Delta 88! My dad had one (diesel version), which I regularly was in as a passenger as a kid. Ahh, the memories

[Sorry for the tangent...]

 

[Legendsk]

Wasn't a problem with my first car. Couldn't lock it accidentally or any other way. Didn't have locks. For that matter, it didn't have windows either. The doors were short like the bottom 1/2 of Dutch doors. I don't think windows came along until the 30's and locks maybe the 40's? My 1948 Ford was the first I can remember that had locks, but I don't suppose they were ever locked - ever. Twas a different world.

 

[MerlintheMad]

It is impossible AFAIK, to lock yourself outside the car if the car detects the fob inside the car.

Not impossible: locking from outside and a good distance away worked for some reason. We tried this twice and got the car to lock. The spare fob was in the hatch, and I moved at least twenty feet away and hit the "detonator" on my fulltime fob: and the car locked. Why would I do this? I have not repeated the experiment.

 

[7Andrei7]

I thought about using the lock on the inside of the door but I was under the impression that the moment you shut the door it unlocks itself automatically. The inside lock is to be used only from the inside with the door closed.
Even on old cars I had, the moment you slammed the door, the lock would pop back up. The only way to fool it was to hold the outside door handle in the open position while the lock was down and then shut the door. That was the only way to fool it and lock the door from the outside, without a key.
Maybe some anti-stupid EU laws... but under normal circumstances I am sure you simply can't accidentally lock your keys inside the car even on old models, because the only way to lock a car from the outside is with the key.