Ruturaj
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How much did they give you for your car? 34,900 sounds low (I know it isn't), so no surprise there.
Had My Fun; Returned To Acura
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How much did they give you for your car? 34,900 sounds low (I know it isn't), so no surprise there.
GenesisG70
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I don't consider an upgrade from Kia to Acura, Kia to Porsche, Merc BMW, etc maybe...
JAI-STINGER
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I agree, When I take my RDX for service, its night and day. Kia service is just blah. Acura treats me like a valued customer and just the environment in The Acura waiting room is just calm and peaceful. Now Lexus is on another planet, when we take the RX there, We are greeted with bottled water, then in the waiting area there is massage chairs, you can get a free pedicure or manicure, and any type of food or snack your heart desires. They have a sign in the waiting area that says, "This food bar cost more to maintain that your Lexus"
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JAI-STINGER
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I owned a 2018 Honda Accord Touring, closest thing to a BMW that I have ever driven. If they offered AWD for the Accord, the Accord would be a force to be reckoned with. TBH the Accord handles better that my Stinger, just not as fast. Now granted, Have never driven a Porsche or Lambo so I would not know what those felt like.
JAI-STINGER
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I'm waiting on the Type S! If I fall in love after the test drive then Bye Bye Stinger!
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General_Vodka
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Only thing with Acura is that they always mount the engine the wrong way. SHAWD is cool and all but it was much better in the NSX because the engine was mounted the right way. Transverse is only for FWD cars. If Acura really wanted a performance sedan then they would actually develop a longitudinal system. If its true that the Type s has a transverse engine then it's out from my list.
JAI-STINGER
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I never really knew that. Good info! Thanks!
Pumbaa
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BYE FELICIA....
Revvdmedia
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I can't find any engine bay shots on the interwebs yet (they may be out there), but I can almost guarantee it will remain transverse in the TLX. I can't see them making a substantial change with the associated cost when they have something that already works for them. I too try my best to avoid cars that are FWD biased, I don't like how they handle. With that said, there are a few select variants that have bucked the trend and shown that transverse AWD can be fun (Focus RS for example, 70% of power can be sent to the rear).
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Revvdmedia
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If done right, could be my next car purchase after the lease is up. Preferably a lightly used for that sweet, sweet depreciation. Although eww on the 4 doors lol.
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Most people would disagree with you, however some of Kia's products (not service) cross over into the same entry-level luxury territory that Acura is in such as the Stinger, Telluride and k900, but by in large Acura products are higher quality.
The service and dealership experience are certainly on another level entirely, I can tell you that for a fact since I have had my cars serviced there for 10 straight years before moving into the Stinger a couple years ago. The Kia dealership I go to now has a terrible waiting room that is fully exposed to the showroom, doesn't even have a tv, has a broken cheap coffee machine and is a very sad place to reflect on your car purchase. Acura has a high end coffee machine, free drinks and snacks, a large drive-in/drop-off bay, a large tv in a private waiting room away from the sales nonsense, they offer loaners if you have an extended warranty package or even if you request one and one is available. It's generally a much more relaxing and premium place to be. I miss it dearly haha
Mike_TX
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Everyone is entitled to their own notions, but I can't believe anyone would write off a car just because of the way the engine is mounted. As long as it goes when you push the accelerator, how could it matter if the engine is longitudinal or transverse or even upside-down at a 45 degree angle?
If someone doesn't like front-wheel drive, that's their choice, but I just don't understand hatred for the way an engine is bolted into a car. But to each his own, I guess!
Revvdmedia
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Honestly, that is a real shame considering the cost of investment to make a change is quite minimal. Obviously that dealership wouldn't incur the cost of expanding the bays, but to invest in a better coffee machine (a few thousand?), a TV (can get a 55+" 4K TV for about 1K if you want to cheap out), and maybe a dividing wall to separate sales and service (a few grand) would greatly improve that area of the dealership.
stingerbeagle
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I have to disagree with this. Acura has been riding on its reputation for the last decade, without the product to back it up. And it's catching up to them. I believe CR already has all three of their main vehicles (MDX, RDX and TLX) as "below average to well below average" reliablity. I also find that Acura has lower "subjective" quality (materials, fit & finish, etc.) than its corresponding Kia competitor across the board.
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General_Vodka
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It's a bit more complicated than that. A transverse setup can't transfer all of the power to the rear, max is 70%. It also has torque steer on the front axle. Acura did mostly remedy that with the SHAWD. I am fine with it being like that in the boring SUVs and the other non sport sedans. However if you introduce a sport sedan then I expect sport focused engineering. Acura knows that. Missed opportunity for them to re launch their performance segment. The only real performance offering they have is the NSX. Simple not enough innovation, just re designs. I have a TSX, so it's not like I am against Acura. I just wish they did more. Mazda actually may be more performance focused then Acura with the new one. We will see in a few years.Everyone is entitled to their own notions, but I can't believe anyone would write off a car just because of the way the engine is mounted. As long as it goes when you push the accelerator, how could it matter if the engine is longitudinal or transverse or even upside-down at a 45 degree angle?
If someone doesn't like front-wheel drive, that's their choice, but I just don't understand hatred for the way an engine is bolted into a car. But to each his own, I guess!
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I agree squeaks and rattles are annoying. I picked up a then new 2003 Honda Accord V6 for my wife and I was so impressed at the time at the build quality and lack of squeaks and rattles that I bought a 2004 Acura TL for myself, made on the same assembly line. My TL squeaked and rattled from the day I drove it off the lot, whereas the Accord was rattle free (until the wife got broadsided by someone running a red-light- thank goodness I insisted we get the EX Accord which had side-curtain airbags). I kept my TL for 160,000 miles with only two problems: there was some hose (I want to say power-steering) that leaked all over the exhaust manifold and almost started a fire, and I had to replace the catalytic converter out of warranty. I just found it ironic that there could be such a difference in cars made on the same line; in fact, that Acura was the first and last one I bought. But it annoyed me that much, so I can understand the frustration with any vehicle.
Mike_TX
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This will blow some minds, but I actually prefer the way a front-wheel drive car handles. They have a more "planted" and stable feel, they seem to respond to the throttle a tiny bit quicker, and I think most of them track better that most rear-drive cars.
I've had a TON of rear-drive cars in my day, including 4 BMW's (which most people think are the "drivers' cars" of all time. In fact, I totaled a new 540i in part because of the wonderful BMW 50-50 weight distribution. When they lose traction at speed, like mine did when it hydroplaned at 70mph, the car is like a pinwheel, with no regard to which way is the front or the rear, so around and around I went until I hit the guardrail on one side and the median on the other. I think a FWD car with more weight up front would have had more directional stability, and I might have been able to save it.
To be honest, if I had a blindfold on, I couldn't tell you whether my Stinger was FWD, RWD or AWD, under normal driving conditions.
I've had a TON of rear-drive cars in my day, including 4 BMW's (which most people think are the "drivers' cars" of all time. In fact, I totaled a new 540i in part because of the wonderful BMW 50-50 weight distribution. When they lose traction at speed, like mine did when it hydroplaned at 70mph, the car is like a pinwheel, with no regard to which way is the front or the rear, so around and around I went until I hit the guardrail on one side and the median on the other. I think a FWD car with more weight up front would have had more directional stability, and I might have been able to save it.
To be honest, if I had a blindfold on, I couldn't tell you whether my Stinger was FWD, RWD or AWD, under normal driving conditions.
Mike_TX
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True, transverse is associated with FWD, as it's the most direct setup for that. It's also a better packaging option in many ways, since it's more compact end-to-end than an engine/trans/driveshaft/diff arrangement and can be moved farther back in the engine bay.
In my own experience, the torque steer bugaboo has pretty much been done away with, especially compared to FWD cars of the 80's and 90's (which were pretty exciting at times
). I'd say my RL and RLX, as well as my 4 TLX's and my RDX, all had negligible to no torque steer. My MDX had SH-AWD, and of course it was free of it. I agree SH-AWD is the better solution, though, and I'll probably insist on that if I go with another Acura. From interior to exterior to high performance - everything you need for your Stinger awaits you...
