Bad Dealer only uses Synthetic Oil

[socalvn]

The stinger takes full synthetic previously Kia carried a multi-blend or full synthetic and now they're saying only full, and I'm calling BS my oil got dirty pretty quick no way that was full synthetic.
In for my last free oil change after that going to do my own, so they're trying to schedule me back after 5,000 for oil change if that's full synthetic isn't that premature

 

[Ohiocruiser]

 

[Devin]

Synthetic won't keep your oil from getting dirty or smelling like fuel. Synthetic should keep its initial properties longer than conventional, such as viscosity. The only way to know if your oil is synthetic, a blend, or conventional is to send it in for analysis.

My dealer uses Total, which I've never heard of, but if they eff up the engine using crap oil, they get to pay to replace it. Once my 10 year/100K power train is up I'm going to Castrol.

 

[JSolo]

I do my own oil changes. I know 100% what goes in to the engine.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Kia went full synthetic in January this year. I changed my oil schedule from every 4K miles to every 6K miles.

 

[nhcowboy28]

Part out.

 

[bfglitch]

Synthetic won't keep your oil from getting dirty or smelling like fuel. Synthetic should keep its initial properties longer than conventional, such as viscosity. The only way to know if your oil is synthetic, a blend, or conventional is to send it in for analysis.

This....You can't determine if the dealership used full synthetic or not just because the oil got dirty quickly. The only way to really do that is to send an oil sample for analysis. You can't tell by looking at it...feeling it...whatever. To the best of your human senses, you will never be able to tell just from the oil alone if it's synthetic or not.

With that said though, you're probably still better off doing the oil yourself. At least then if something gets screwed up, you only have yourself to blame.

 

[Hiryuu]

Agreed with everyone else, to be honest any oil, conventional, blend, or synthetic will be "dirty" and dark black shortly after an oil change.

Color does not indicate whether the additive pack protecting your engine has been worn out.

 

[turboAWD]

Synthetic won't keep your oil from getting dirty or smelling like fuel. Synthetic should keep its initial properties longer than conventional, such as viscosity. The only way to know if your oil is synthetic, a blend, or conventional is to send it in for analysis.

My dealer uses Total, which I've never heard of, but if they eff up the engine using crap oil, they get to pay to replace it. Once my 10 year/100K power train is up I'm going to Castrol.

Total is the original factory fill synthetic oil. Not very common here, but pretty common in other parts of the world.

 

[D.J.]

, so they're trying to schedule me back after 5,000 for oil change if that's full synthetic isn't that premature

No, Doesn't your manual say to change it even MORE frequently than 5000 (miles?)

the 2022 Canadian manual says every 3000.



Nearly every driving condition is considered severe

Severe driving conditions
A: Repeatedly driving short distance
of less than 8 km (5 miles) in normal
temperature or less than 16 km (10
miles) in freezing temperature.
B: Extensive engine idling or low
speed driving for long distances.
C: Driving on rough, dusty, muddy,
unpaved, graveled or saltspread
roads.
D: Driving in areas using salt or
other corrosive materials or in very
cold weather.
E: Driving in heavy dust condition.
F: Driving in heavy traffic area.
G: Driving on uphill, downhill, or
mountain road repeatedly.
H: Using for towing or camping, and
driving with loading on the roof.
I: Driving as a patrol car, taxi, other
commercial use or vehicle towing.
J: Frequently driving under high
speed or rapid acceleration/deceleration.
K: Frequently driving in stop-and-go
conditions

 

[D.J.]

No, Doesn't your manual say to change it even MORE frequently than 5000 (miles?)

the 2022 Canadian manual says every 3000.
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Nearly every driving condition is considered severe

Severe driving conditions
A: Repeatedly driving short distance
of less than 8 km (5 miles) in normal
temperature or less than 16 km (10
miles) in freezing temperature.
B: Extensive engine idling or low
speed driving for long distances.
C: Driving on rough, dusty, muddy,
unpaved, graveled or saltspread
roads.
D: Driving in areas using salt or
other corrosive materials or in very
cold weather.
E: Driving in heavy dust condition.
F: Driving in heavy traffic area.
G: Driving on uphill, downhill, or
mountain road repeatedly.
H: Using for towing or camping, and
driving with loading on the roof.
I: Driving as a patrol car, taxi, other
commercial use or vehicle towing.
J: Frequently driving under high
speed or rapid acceleration/deceleration.
K: Frequently driving in stop-and-go
conditions

USA manual for 2022 says the same

 

[D.J.]

Also - Full synth is the correct lubricant for 3,000 mile oil change intervals per the Kia manual.

 

[socalvn]

Alright well thanks for the awareness guys ,guess these turbo engines require a little more maintenance

 

[Deviate]

This....You can't determine if the dealership used full synthetic or not just because the oil got dirty quickly. The only way to really do that is to send an oil sample for analysis. You can't tell by looking at it...feeling it...whatever. To the best of your human senses, you will never be able to tell just from the oil alone if it's synthetic or not.

With that said though, you're probably still better off doing the oil yourself. At least then if something gets screwed up, you only have yourself to blame.

True statement with "only yourself to blame". On the flip side if Kia decides to gernade my motor by not tightening the drain plug that's on them. (Actual situation that has occurred to a close friend) If i leave a socket on my shroud after doing plugs, shut the hood and go driving, it falls and pops my radiator thats on me. (Again real, different Stinger than the first). Its a catch 22 to a point. For me, yes i would rather do the work knowing whats being done and how. But at what point do you force the liability to someone else? Especially when the warranty is fully intact.

Thats not saying I haven't done things to my car. I leave everything installed too when i take it in for oil changes, or recalls and so on. Im lucky enough that my dealer doesn't care.