Consumption GT 3.3 vs GT-line 2.0 gas

[Alagos]

2.0 - my best Result while driving home behind a Truck with 85-95 km/h was 5.4 l/100km

I just made a Small Test from last Refuel to now.
Driving ~70km each day plus shopping at Weekend Lets say 10km, my last refuel was 9 days ago.. im at 5500km now
Before my Test i had to refuel After 6-7 days ..
Yes, it’s possible to Drive it very very Calmed but there is no fun.

I Forgot to reset the usage combined, i was at 9.1 l/100km

Range in display before Test was 587km now im at 650km
I Wonder if i Drive calm the last day before refuel and resetting the usage, can i See higher Range, maybe near the maximum ? Will try it.

 

[Schpok]

wow 5,4 really? that's carzy! My best was 7.1l driving between 120 and 130 km/h for 150km
I was sure you can get it in the 6'es but a 5 up front, good job

 

[Alagos]

wow 5,4 really? that's carzy! My best was 7.1l driving between 120 and 130 km/h for 150km
I was sure you can get it in the 6'es but a 5 up front, good job

A7 - Hildesheim -> Hannover

 

[Manaz]

wow 5,4 really? that's carzy! My best was 7.1l driving between 120 and 130 km/h for 150km

There is a substantial difference in wind resistance between 85-95km/h and 120-130km/h. This would easily account for the difference in fuel consumption.

 

[Rennokas]

Thanks for the answer

I guess my reading would be more close to Finland's, I live in Tallinn. So my Stinger GT (3.3TT) gets around 11-12l/100km in city with traffic jams road works etc. So I would say that if the higher initial cost of 3.3TT is not a concern then take it. It is much better engine than the 2.0T. I would say that on highway it will probably be almost equal consumption as it can overtake and cruise much easier with such power (works lower rev range). Dont know is the 2.0 has start-stop, but the 3.3 has.

 

[Gargamel]

Had mine for a week or two now.
Around 1L/10km using cruise control around speed limit with smart setting.
Playing around with sport setting, i get around 1.3L/10km.

 

[Mike_TX]

Pretty simple answer. If 2.0 and 3.3 are the same price and the concern is stop and go mpg, go with the 2.0. Simple, done. If 2.0 and 3.3 are the same price and stop and go mpg is not your concern...then 3.3 all day.

But of course they're not!

 

[Mike_TX]

I guess my reading would be more close to Finland's, I live in Tallinn. So my Stinger GT (3.3TT) gets around 11-12l/100km in city with traffic jams road works etc. So I would say that if the higher initial cost of 3.3TT is not a concern then take it. It is much better engine than the 2.0T.

Hmmm ... better in what way? It's more powerful, yes, but the 2.0 is a good solid engine, with a turbo, and it makes class-leading power.

I would say that on highway it will probably be almost equal consumption

as it can overtake and cruise much easier with such power (works lower rev range).

Um, no. I've seen as high as 37 mpg on the highway at 80 mph. The 3.3 can't get close to that.

Dont know is the 2.0 has start-stop, but the 3.3 has.

Yes, the 2.0 does have start/stop. But "some" of us hate it and disable it.

 

[ScottM]

If the price was the same (!)

Pretty simple answer. If 2.0 and 3.3 are the same price and the concern is stop and go mpg, go with the 2.0. Simple, done. If 2.0 and 3.3 are the same price and stop and go mpg is not your concern...then 3.3 all day.

But of course they're not!

I just answered the OP's question... simple.

 

[tgurian]

Just throwing in my 2 cents.

Please note, I know what I am saying puts me in the top quartile here but I am very sensitive to this kind of stuff and see no point in lying. Just throwing out my own experience.

I have ~3600 miles on 3.3L, followed a good and proper 1000 mile break in.

During my normal commute which is a combination of Boston city traffic and highway miles, I average about ~22.5 mpg (10.45L/100km)

My last long highway drive from southern CT back up to Boston (~105 miles) had me at 29.3 mpg (8.03L/100km), did that 105 miles in about a needle width less than a quarter tank, putting my highway range >400 miles.

Had the car in comfort the whole time, radar cruise control at like 75. Minimal passing or aggressive driving.

Oil is Mobil 1 5w-30. Gas is toptier 93

I think its safe to say that a happy 3.3L is capable of very acceptable fuel economy if you remove any spirited driving. Sometimes I just rip on her though and then who cares

EDIT: English/metric conversions

 

[dalton4life]

I'm averaging 17-20 mpg doing 90% driving in the city in Sport nearly all the time with stop start turned off in a 2.0. MPG was a concern for me as I was averaging 13 mpg in my previous car.

 

[Buzzman12]

Reviving thread on MPG's.
After 6-7 months of ownership, my gas mileage is really bad. Granted, it's all city driving, short distances around my neighbourhood, but I'm still surprised it drinks so much gas. 3.3tt engine.
The car is showing 15 to 16L/100kms, which is about 15mpg's. Doesn't seem to matter if I'm in Eco or Sport mode or whatever mode, or how easy I am on the gas.
Is this normal? Will it get better as I put on more miles? It has 1,450 kms on it so far (about 900 miles)
Thanks.

 

[Snicklefritz]

^^^That is "normal" especially if you do a fair amount of idling. I struggle during the winter to get much above 15 MPG. If I can get out on the freeway for much of a tank of gas it makes a big difference, then I can average 22-23 MPG. My "Range" after a refill has been as low as 270-something, once, and in the 290s a couple of times. I wouldn't say that my driving is "city driving", if that implies inching along in rush hour traffic as normal. I avoid rush hour mostly. I think that my poor gas mileage is almost entirely caused by idling, waiting for my wife to do her things.

 

[Thomby]

If you're doing a lot of idling, short trips, and city driving, yes it's going to drop a lot. When I leave my neighborhood my gas gauge is in the single digits, and if I cruise on mostly rural roads I can watch myself gain a mpg every mile or so up to about the half hour mark.

So the difference for me between 18mpg, 22mpg, and 26mpg is directly tied to how many 5 mile, 10 mile, or 25 mile trips I'm taking. And that's with E30 which is about a 10% hit to range.

It takes some amount of gas to warm the engine up and more to get 4000 lbs up to speed, but a lot less to keep our reasonably aerodynamic cars with 38psi tires rolling at 40-50 mph. So the more/longer you can keep the thing coasting along at speed with nearly closed throttle, the better. Which is what the real-time gas consumption line should show.

 

[Volfy]

It isn't difficult to get higher-than-average mpg's out of any vehicle. For a turbo car, that means staying off boost and timing your accel/decel with traffic to minimize use of brakes. Even without regen braking of a hybrid/EV, you can conserve momentum with a regular ICE vehicle so you don't waste fuel burnt to get your car up to speed. On my morning commute, I have no problem getting mpg in the high 30's in the Stinger 2.0T. I was a bit surprised to see the new 2.5T getting 40+ mpg on the same morning route. Traffic on the way home in the afternoon is much worse, so I usually manage only the low 30's at best.

These Stingers can be fairly miserly on fuel, if you are willing to do your part.

 

[LordKOTL]

It isn't difficult to get higher-than-average mpg's out of any vehicle. For a turbo car, that means staying off boost and timing your accel/decel with traffic to minimize use of brakes. Even without regen braking of a hybrid/EV, you can conserve momentum with a regular ICE vehicle so you don't waste fuel burnt to get your car up to speed. On my morning commute, I have no problem getting mpg in the high 30's in the Stinger 2.0T. I was a bit surprised to see the new 2.5T getting 40+ mpg on the same morning route. Traffic on the way home in the afternoon is much worse, so I usually manage only the low 30's at best.

These Stingers can be fairly miserly on fuel, if you are willing to do your part.

Yep. On long highway trips you'll want to try to maintain a set speed...i.e. 60mph and keep it there as much as possible.

I have no proof, but I think the amount of gas you save slowing down is much less than you use to get back up to speed, even for a small difference, like 5mph, so sorry changes negatively affect your fuel consumption. So, if you are coming up to a slow vehicle try to give yourself plenty of room to switch lanes and get around them without slowing up if possible.

 

[Volfy]

Yep. On long highway trips you'll want to try to maintain a set speed...i.e. 60mph and keep it there as much as possible.

I have no proof, but I think the amount of gas you save slowing down is much less than you use to get back up to speed, even for a small difference, like 5mph, so sorry changes negatively affect your fuel consumption. So, if you are coming up to a slow vehicle try to give yourself plenty of room to switch lanes and get around them without slowing up if possible.

How much fuel is used for accel depends on how quick the accel rate is. If the drive stomps on the loud pedal and goes from 40 to 70mph in 2 seconds, it is gonna burn a lot of fuel. OTOH, if I granny it and take forever to creep from 40 to 70mph in top gear, I'll burn barely any more fuel than if I were cruising at any of the in-between speeds. I'll probably piss off every car coming up behind me the whole time though. This is why Prius drivers are so hated.

I hypermile too, but I try to take into account the traffic around me, so I don't invite the International Peace Sign thrown my way.

 

[Buzzman12]

Just a quick update on the poor gas mileage on my new car.
For some reason, it has improved a fair bit lately (I'm not complaining). I'm now close to 2,000 kms (about 1,200 miles) and I'm thinking maybe getting that extra break-in mileage has somehow affected it, in a positive way.
My last little drive gave me about 10l/100kms, which is way better than the 15-16 litres I was getting earlier.
My driving habits haven't really changed either.

 

[lostangeleman]

Hello,
About to order my new Kia in a few weeks. I test drove the GT 3.3 AWD and the GT-line 2.0 RW, as those are the ones I like most.

If the price was the same (!) would you consider buying the 3.3 AWD for city use? Both cars are are great. But can the 3.3 cope in city driving conditions fuel economy wise or is it too much.

In Finland we have 95 and 98 octane gas.

I have the GT 3.3 AWD and highway i get 11.1 in sport mode. eco mode i can easily get much lower, prolly under or around 10 but that’s driving highway. in the city i get around 14-16L/100kms. if im driving it hard it’ll still be between 17-18max overall during the entire trip. since refueling i usually refuel at 14L/100kms.

 

[lostangeleman]

Just a quick update on the poor gas mileage on my new car.
For some reason, it has improved a fair bit lately (I'm not complaining). I'm now close to 2,000 kms (about 1,200 miles) and I'm thinking maybe getting that extra break-in mileage has somehow affected it, in a positive way.
My last little drive gave me about 10l/100kms, which is way better than the 15-16 litres I was getting earlier.
My driving habits haven't really changed either.

DO A STP FULL fuel cleaner. it’s because of ethanol deposits. as long as you’ve gotten your service done, and everything is ok with the car, that can be a major drainer. my car was running rough after the previous owner and even if you’re using 91+ octane, the deposits will build up. You can buy at Canadian Tire or Online just search it up. mine got so much better after using it. use it after your next oil change after!