I went in to take a browse at Kia Richmond since it's in my local neighborhood. I went for a test drive and planned to just get a quote of the possible deal they could give me. Immediately, the sales guy brought in the general sales manager to negotiate. The general sales manager wanted to know whether I would buy a car today, and I stated only if a good deal was present. Long Story short, I definitely did not enjoy the negotiating portion, as the general sales manager was quite pushy and made it an uncomfortable experience. However, I ended up purchasing it that day as I felt the deal was good, they gave me a good trade-in value, and I most likely wasn't going to get a much better deal elsewhere. I got a bit over 3k off MSRP, and no type of administration fees, $49k before trade-in. Feel free to ask anymore questions, or DM me.