AWD All Season Tire Grip - What's Your Experience?

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I was able to get an extended test drive today thru tomorrow morning on a GT2. I've been able to push the car fairly hard on take off and through corners. I was surprised at the amount of tire slippage - especially around corners when pushed hard. Full disclosure the temps were in the high teens here in Chicago so definitely a potential contributor to less grip. That said, the slippage was fairly significant and was wondering what your experience has been with the AWD and the all season tires.

Overall, I'm very impressed with the car and like many of it's features. I enjoy spirited driving but was slightly unnerved at the lack of grip at times.
 
Let me say this, if you want better grip in those type of temperatures, you need to invest in a set of performance winter tires. No all season tires are going to grip in cold temps as they would in the warmer temps. Having AWD does not mean there will be no slippage in adverse weather, that is a function of the tire more so than the AWD system. I bought my 535 in winter with summer tires but ordered a set of winter tires once the deal was done for delivery the next day to put on before a blizzard. I drove that car all winter (it was my daily driver) without ever getting stuck or stranded. You might want to research tirerack.com, the tires that come on the car are not the top rated ones for winter use. Keep in mind though if you get AS tires that perform great in the cold they may not have the best traction in summer. With tires it's always a trade off.
 
are you sure the car has all-season tires - just becuase it has AWD doesn't mean it automatically has the all-seasons.
If it has summer tires, they lose grip below 40
 
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Directly from Michelin about the stock 19" Pilot Sport 4s...

As the temperature of the compound nears freezing, the grip level of the tire begins to degrade. Michelin does not recommend using UHP Sport Summer tires when tire temperatures drop below 40°F (5°C) or on snow and ice.

At tire temperatures below 20°F (-7°C) Michelin UHP Sport Summer tires may develop surface cracks in the upper sidewall and tread area if flexed.​

The 18 all-seasons are a different tire, so would need to research that separately.
 
I was able to confirm that the tires were definitely all season 18" tires. What has me even more perplexed is that I drove an extended drive of an Audi S5 today and it had summer tires. I drove it about an hour after I turned in the Stinger to the dealer. I was shocked that my grip with those tires was much better than what I had on the Stinger. In two hours of the same type of driving as the Stinger, I never lost grip with the summer tires on the S5 at the same outside temperature of about 25-30 degrees and the same road conditions. All that to say, the Stinger is a great car but something with the tires seems to be lacking with the all seasons as it relates to grip. I'm by no means a tire expert and am only going off of what I experienced on the drives.
 
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MartinC said:
I was able to confirm that the tires were definitely all season 18" tires. What has me even more perplexed is that I drove an extended drive of an Audi S5 today and it had summer tires. I drove it about an hour after I turned in the Stinger to the dealer. I was shocked that my grip with those tires was much better than what I had on the Stinger. In two hours of the same type of driving as the Stinger, I never lost grip with the summer tires on the S5 at the same outside temperature of about 25-30 degrees and the same road conditions. All that to say, the Stinger is a great car but something with the tires seems to be lacking with the all seasons as it relates to grip. I'm by no means a tire expert and am only going off of what I experienced on the drives.
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Not all tires are created equally . there is quite a bit of info , reviews vids etc in the Tire/Wheels section here , you see in my signature that I have AS tires and I can assure you they are working really well here .................:thumbup:
 
Did you replace the factory tires or are the all seasons your using the original tires from KIA?
 
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Did you replace the factory tires or are the all seasons your using the original tires from KIA?
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Replaced them with the BF Goodrich tires , I have the stocks for sale
 
How much better are the new all seasons than the factory tires? It sounds like they are substantially better based on your post.
 
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How much better are the new all seasons than the factory tires? It sounds like they asubstantially better based on your post.
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Well the stock tire would be terrible for winter , absolutely dangerous in snow /ice . They are not designed for cold weather driving . Depends where you live .
 
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If I remember correctly the 2.0T has Potenza RE97AS as the OEM tires, those are GT AS tires and not the best of the bunch. I haven’t seen a GT with the 18” wheels and tires so I don’t know what tires they are using on that. KIA touts the Summer Michelin’s but it seems they didn’t go all on the others. For anyone that plans on pushing the 2.0T, get better tires the stock tires on those are not up to the task. Anyone knows what the 18” tires on the GT are?
 
MartinC said:
What has me even more perplexed is that I drove an extended drive of an Audi S5 today and it had summer tires. I drove it about an hour after I turned in the Stinger to the dealer. I was shocked that my grip with those tires was much better than what I had on the Stinger. In two hours of the same type of driving as the Stinger, I never lost grip with the summer tires on the S5 at the same outside temperature of about 25-30 degrees and the same road conditions.
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I'm running Michelin Pilot Super Sports and while they're a little scary when I first take off in the cold (it doesn't get below the high twenties here and hasn't gotten below 30 this year), they warm up within a couple of miles and do just fine in normal driving. Even after a half mile with temps in the thirties they're pretty grippy, so I can believe the Audi did well. I wouldn't try them in snow or ice though.
 
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