100 percent methanol

[Lucky0006]

Hello all!

I am fairly new to the car scene do take it easy. I recently installed a BMS Water Methanol kit into my 2020 Kia Stinger GT. I have been using 50/50 mixture and had decent results. I am curious if i am able to run 100 percent methanol instead. I imagine I would have to mess with some WMI settings in my JB4 to accommodate for 100 percent meth. Could someone possibly give me a run down on what setting to change? And also I only have 91 octane where i live and was wondering if it would be redundant to run E30 mix with either 50/50 meth or 100 percent meth.

Thank You!

 

[Stiletto]

Hello all!

I am fairly new to the car scene do take it easy. I recently installed a BMS Water Methanol kit into my 2020 Kia Stinger GT. I have been using 50/50 mixture and had decent results. I am curious if i am able to run 100 percent methanol instead. I imagine I would have to mess with some WMI settings in my JB4 to accommodate for 100 percent meth. Could someone possibly give me a run down on what setting to change? And also I only have 91 octane where i live and was wondering if it would be redundant to run E30 mix with either 50/50 meth or 100 percent meth.

Thank You!

Can you run 100% methanol? Yes. But, you need to decide on why you'd do this. The main reason WMI kits run 50/50 blend is the hoses won't break down over time from pure meth (not an issue if you run PTFE, aka Teflon, tubing). Same is true for the reservoir. Next, water has better cooling properties for the amount sprayed. If you could spray more meth, you could equal the cooling percentage of water...but you'd have to run a large tank and the weight would be unruly. Last, because of the cooling potential of water over meth, it is possible to tune for more power on water than meth, but you'd need a VERY good tuner (and a Motec control everything) to dial in this sort of power. Thus, most folks rely on the easy octane boosting properties of methanol.

It's not redundant to run E30 and WMI. You're benefiting from cooling the intake air and bumping the AKI value (which allows for more timing and creates a hotter combustion).

I would recommend mixing your own 50/50 blend using distilled water and VP Racing M1. Get logs, adjust the JB4 settings if needed. Once you've dialed that in and gone through a tank, bump to 60/40 (meth/water). Repeat logging and adjustments. Unless you're doing dyno runs or using Dragy, you won't really know if you're making significant gains either way.

 

[AWDGT2]

Can you run 100% methanol? Yes. But, you need to decide on why you'd do this. The main reason WMI kits run 50/50 blend is the hoses won't break down over time from pure meth (not an issue if you run PTFE, aka Teflon, tubing). Same is true for the reservoir. Next, water has better cooling properties for the amount sprayed. If you could spray more meth, you could equal the cooling percentage of water...but you'd have to run a large tank and the weight would be unruly. Last, because of the cooling potential of water over meth, it is possible to tune for more power on water than meth, but you'd need a VERY good tuner (and a Motec control everything) to dial in this sort of power. Thus, most folks rely on the easy octane boosting properties of methanol.

It's not redundant to run E30 and WMI. You're benefiting from cooling the intake air and bumping the AKI value (which allows for more timing and creates a hotter combustion).

I would recommend mixing your own 50/50 blend using distilled water and VP Racing M1. Get logs, adjust the JB4 settings if needed. Once you've dialed that in and gone through a tank, bump to 60/40 (meth/water). Repeat logging and adjustments. Unless you're doing dyno runs or using Dragy, you won't really know if you're making significant gains either way.

Best answer I've read, good job. One other note without getting too into the weeds is the Stoichiometric value of that additive changes with different mixes of meth. A 50/50 mix or 60/40 is your best bet to keep the AFR (Lambda) of that tune happy. One other factor is the danger of 100%, not only health wise but it's flammability. Knock it down with a bit of distilled water, it's safer, there's no disadvantage, and it will last twice as long.

 

[Ohiocruiser]

Can you run 100% methanol? Yes. But, you need to decide on why you'd do this. The main reason WMI kits run 50/50 blend is the hoses won't break down over time from pure meth (not an issue if you run PTFE, aka Teflon, tubing). Same is true for the reservoir. Next, water has better cooling properties for the amount sprayed. If you could spray more meth, you could equal the cooling percentage of water...but you'd have to run a large tank and the weight would be unruly. Last, because of the cooling potential of water over meth, it is possible to tune for more power on water than meth, but you'd need a VERY good tuner (and a Motec control everything) to dial in this sort of power. Thus, most folks rely on the easy octane boosting properties of methanol.

It's not redundant to run E30 and WMI. You're benefiting from cooling the intake air and bumping the AKI value (which allows for more timing and creates a hotter combustion).

I would recommend mixing your own 50/50 blend using distilled water and VP Racing M1. Get logs, adjust the JB4 settings if needed. Once you've dialed that in and gone through a tank, bump to 60/40 (meth/water). Repeat logging and adjustments. Unless you're doing dyno runs or using Dragy, you won't really know if you're making significant gains either way.

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