Dealer Markup Is my dealership crazy

[ScorpionGT2]

I own a 2022 GT2 Scorpion. This was my quote for my 30k mile “package”. Everything on the left for $1,771.73 + $418.36 for the drain and refill of my trans fluid (so a total of $2190). My car is at roughly 36,000 miles right now and the dealer recommended all of this junk when I came in for my routine oil change. I don’t know exactly the appropriate mileage for the fluid swaps on brakes & trans but I think the prices for these are outrageous. Curious if anybody has recommendations for what I should do, or if the Stealership is trying to run my pockets! TIA!

 

[Snowwhite]

hell no. that's nuts. if anything i'd do the brake fluid and coolant. the rest can wait or you can DIY. (air filters both engine and cabin are super easy.) trans fluid is 60k on the schedule. your choice if you want to do that earlier, but make sure they're flushing out all 8+ qts with a power flush instead of just drain and fill. that'll only do 4 qts.

 

[Ohiocruiser]

It's a car forum. Any dealer quote will be considered crazy, here. But that's what they charge. Not sure what crank case cleaning is though. Obviously it will be a lot less, if you do it yourself.

 

[Alpinesting]

Make sure they shine the crank bearings like mirrors. Oh, and change the cabin air filter for 1000$ These dealerships are nuts.

 

[Alpinesting]

Trans is 60,000 under severe use.

 

[ScorpionGT2]

Trans is 60,000 under severe use.

My car unfortunately didn’t come with an owners manual so I don’t have the mileage for these things lol, guess I’ll have to google. I believe the brake system is recommended around 40k so I’ll probably have them do that next time I run in, possibly the coolant as well.

 

[Ah GetFd]

I own a 2022 GT2 Scorpion. This was my quote for my 30k mile “package”. Everything on the left for $1,771.73 + $418.36 for the drain and refill of my trans fluid (so a total of $2190). My car is at roughly 36,000 miles right now and the dealer recommended all of this junk when I came in for my routine oil change. I don’t know exactly the appropriate mileage for the fluid swaps on brakes & trans but I think the prices for these are outrageous. Curious if anybody has recommendations for what I should do, or if the Stealership is trying to run my pockets! TIA!

For the top of the range KIa Stinger GT 3.3 TT Kia Australia offers dealer capped price serving up to 7 years.

The 50,000 kms service (30,000 miles) is as follows

5 Years or 50,000 km	$402.00	What's Covered

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Your Authorised Kia dealer will perform these tasks at the time of this service:

• Add Genuine Oil System Cleaner
• Replace Engine Oil with 5W/30 A5
• Replace Oil Filter with Genuine Filter
• Replace Sump Plug Washer with Genuine Washer
• Add Genuine Fuel Additive
• Top up Windscreen Washer fluid with Genuine Windscreen Washer Fluid
• Inspect Engine Air Filter
• Inspect Brake Fluid colour and level
• Inspect Cabin Pollen Filter
• Inspect Power Steering System
• Inspect Tyres (Pressure & Tread)
• Inspect Suspension Ball Joints
• Inspect Air Conditioner Compressor
• Inspect Air Conditioner Refrigerant
• Inspect Intercooler Hoses and Intake
• Reset Service Indicator on Dash Display
• Check for Outstanding Service Campaigns and Recalls
• Connect Kia Diagnostic System (KDS) and check for DTC`s
• Kia Roadside Assistance Activation
• Perform Quality Control Road Test

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AUD $402 is USD$ 258

Kia replaces brake fluid every 20,000kms on Stinger.

2 Years or 20,000 km	$545.00	What's Covered

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Your Authorised Kia dealer will perform these tasks at the time of this service:

• Add Genuine Oil System Cleaner
• Replace Engine Oil with 5W/30 A5
• Replace Oil Filter with Genuine Filter
• Replace Sump Plug Washer with Genuine Washer
• Add Genuine Fuel Additive
• Replace Brake Fluid with Genuine Brake fluid
• Replace Cabin Pollen Filter with Genuine Filter
• Top up Windscreen Washer fluid with Genuine Windscreen Washer Fluid
• Inspect Engine Air Filter
• Inspect Fuel Tank Air Filter
• Inspect Drive Belts
• Inspect Vacuum and Crankcase Ventilation Hoses
• Inspect Exhaust System
• Visually Inspect Battery Condition
• Inspect Brake Lines and Hoses
• Inspect Park Brake and adjust if necessary
• Inspect Disc Brakes and Disc Pad Condition
• Inspect Power Steering System
• Inspect Tyres (Pressure & Tread)
• Inspect Driveshaft Boots
• Inspect Propeller Shaft - Clean, Tighten
• Inspect Suspension Ball Joints
• Inspect Air Conditioner Compressor
• Inspect Air Conditioner Refrigerant
• Inspect Intercooler Hoses and Intake
• Reset Service Indicator on Dash Display
• Check for Outstanding Service Campaigns and Recalls
• Connect Kia Diagnostic System (KDS) and check for DTC`s
• Kia Roadside Assistance Activation
• Perform Quality Control Road Test

There is no listed change to transmission oil or system coolant in the first 7 years/70,000kms........

 

[Landshark]

My car unfortunately didn’t come with an owners manual so I don’t have the mileage for these things lol, guess I’ll have to google. I believe the brake system is recommended around 40k so I’ll probably have them do that next time I run in, possibly the coolant as well.

you can download a manual to your phone/PC ... actually, you can do this for practically any product.

my rule of thumb is, its just oil changes and air/cabin filters until 60k miles. all that other crap is B.S. ....

 

[D.J.]

hell no. that's nuts. if anything i'd do the brake fluid and coolant.

Why would you change the coolant so early?

 

[Snicklefritz]

Inflation doesn't explain the difference. My c. 30,000 miles service was $1,100 before covid. None of the previous "checkups" had come anywhere near that much, the most was c. $700.

Figure this out. At c. 30,000 miles on our Premium I went in for an oil change, expecting them to see the mileage and announce the same "biggie" service, in other words, somewhere around a thousand bucks. But they said nothing and did the oil change. I've been in several times since and they have never mentioned that yooge "check everything" service.

In other words, I do not believe those prices they quoted for your 30K miles package. That isn't just markup, it is theft.

 

[Volfy]

Some items on that list you can easily DIY with minimum skill, like windshield washer fluid refill and cabin air filter replacement.

Other things, like brake fluid flush, is legit at 36k. Down here in humid Gulf coast, I change our every 2-3 yrs.

Still others, like trans fluid, is too early for 36k.

Then there's BS, like "roden deterrent". WTF is that?! A couple of roach bait thrown in your glove box?

I've got yer "roden deterrent" RIGHT HERE! It's called... avoid this dealer like the plague.

 

[Ah GetFd]

you can download a manual to your phone/PC ... actually, you can do this for practically any product.

my rule of thumb is, its just oil changes and air/cabin filters until 60k miles. all that other crap is B.S.

My car unfortunately didn’t come with an owners manual so I don’t have the mileage for these things lol, guess I’ll have to google. I believe the brake system is recommended around 40k so I’ll probably have them do that next time I run in, possibly the coolant as well.

None of the late model Stingers came with a manual. It is all online

Follow this link to your 600+ page manual for a 2022 Stinger

Manuals

owners.kia.com

You can also take this link which is the complete technical manual for ALL Stingers

Kia Stinger CK 2018-2025 Service Manual

On page 593 0f 607 0f your USA manual you can take a further link to additional manuals listed below for USA customers only

Online Factory authorised manuals (US Only)
The following publications are avail-
able on
ww.KiaTechinfo.com

Service Manual
This manual covers maintenance
and recommended procedures for
repair to engine and chassis compo-
nents. It is written for the Journey-
man mechanic, but is simple enough
for most mechanically inclined own-
ers to understand

Electrical Trouble Shooting Manual
This manual complements the Ser-
vice Manual by providing in depth
troubleshooting information for
each electrical circuit in your vehicle.

Owners Manual
This manual describes the overall
features and operating procedures
for the vehicle.

 

[Ah GetFd]

I own a 2022 GT2 Scorpion. This was my quote for my 30k mile “package”. Everything on the left for $1,771.73 + $418.36 for the drain and refill of my trans fluid (so a total of $2190). My car is at roughly 36,000 miles right now and the dealer recommended all of this junk when I came in for my routine oil change. I don’t know exactly the appropriate mileage for the fluid swaps on brakes & trans but I think the prices for these are outrageous. Curious if anybody has recommendations for what I should do, or if the Stealership is trying to run my pockets! TIA!

....in addition to the above which I am sure you will research read and download....

Your USA manual on page 496 of 607 says;
Coolant (Engine)
At first, replace at 120,000 miles (200,000 km) or 10 years :
after that, replace every 30,000 miles (50,000 km) or 24 months

It also says;
Automatic transmission fluid Every 60,000 miles (100,000 km)

Transfer case oil (AWD). No Service Required unless submerged in water.....

 

[Snowwhite]

Why would you change the coolant so early?

I consider coolant a 30k item to keep the anti corrosive properties at their best. It’s really humid down and slightly salty down here in south Florida.