20,000kms Second Service due My23 Stinger GT 3.3L TT

[Ah GetFd]

I have the second dealer service due with a capped "price" of $500 odd which I am not worried about.

What I do worry about is the requirement to change the brake fluid.....

I hate people messing with my car. So much so that I serviced my G8 V8 (Commodore SSV) every service after the first and sold it (BRAND NEW) after 14 years without a dent or a mark strictly serviced with genuine parts.

I am thinking of doing the 20,000 myself. But what are people's thoughts of not changing brake fluid? Personally I never touch brake fluid

and 20,000 kms?..........other manufacturers don't even think about looking at brake fluid for 60,,000kms..........

 

[GT Elite]

I change the brake fluid every 2 years on my street driven cars. When I was track driving, the brake fluid was changed yearly.

 

[socalvn]

Let the dealership do it keep your warranty they should be willing to negotiate price with you too

 

[NS_Stinger]

Not trying to scare you but my dealer "serviced my brakes" about 3 years ago. It was that service that made me never return to the dealer and to service the car myself. They chipped the HELL out of my Brembos around the pins and made a mess. I had to repair it all.

 

[Ah GetFd]

Can anyone honestly say they have noticed a marked difference by not changing brake fluid? I ran three new GM cars concurrently for 14, 20 and 22 years. I replaced brake pads, rotors, did regular engine services but I never changed brake fluid and it made not one Iota of difference.

Everyone talks about moisture getting into brake fluid. Never happened. But if it did it made no difference. Has anyone ever been charged, maimed or killed by not changing brake fluid?
To me it's just another thing a dealer wants to do to create work.

As for negotiating dealer service. No. Kia have capped price servicing. Every dealer charges exactly the same and it is a guaranteed fixed price any dealer for the first 7 years.

Capped Price Servicing - All Models | Kia Owners | Kia Australia

Kia gives you more assurance with 7 Yr Capped Price Servicing meaning no unexpected surprises. Find out the servicing costs for all Kia models here.

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[maltbie]

How hard is it to change your own brake fluid?

 

[Grump]

Maybe your manual is different, but mine says brake fluid is not due until 48,000KM. Those service packages are a money maker for the dealer, they don't benefit you. Follow the severe maintenance schedule in your manual and your warranty will stay in tact. Tell the dealer what to do, not the other way around. Whether or not the brake fluid is end-of-life, doesn't matter if you're trying to keep warranty.

 

[Ah GetFd]

Maybe your manual is different, but mine says brake fluid is not due until 48,000KM. Those service packages are a money maker for the dealer, they don't benefit you. Follow the severe maintenance schedule in your manual and your warranty will stay in tact. Tell the dealer what to do, not the other way around. Whether or not the brake fluid is end-of-life, doesn't matter if you're trying to keep warranty.

Obviously it is and if you took the link above, selected Stinger 2023 and 20,000km service they detail exactly what they do. Here, I will do it for you

How hard is to change brake fluid? Well more than not changing it. I am a great believer in the philosophy "if it's not broken don't fix it". I see it's pointless cracking every brake caliper to bleed through new brake fluid, and when is the brake fluid actually not OK? 20,000? 48,000? 68,000?

Sealed systems are such that the only time they stuff up is when they are no longer sealed. Diff oil lasts the life of the car yet they make that a replaceable item. As GM workshop managers told me, they rarely if ever change it. But it's on the replacement list for the hell of it.

This is what the 20,000km Stinger 3.3L TT service says...

 

[Ah GetFd]

So in Australia to clarify warranty obligations, a car must be serviced by a Licenced mechanic. This is a deal struck between dealers and the Competition and Consumer Commission or warranty "may" be denied. This was to stop dealers from requiring cars to be serviced at their dealerships to maintain warranty. The ACCC said, right. But what we will do is say, ANY licensed mechanic can service if if they follow the log book servicing requirements to the same standard as a dealer. It still doesn't stop a dealer denying warranty if the licensed mechanic has broken something but what it says is you take it back to that mechanic to fix it at their cost. So, same diagnostic tests, equivalent new parts for service, documented and so on. So this is meant to benefit the owner as warranty is not voided by using a cheaper alternative. Hence after market service centres now offer "Log Book" servicing. Anyone can service a car, I get it, I have done it for years. It does not stop anyone from servicing a car.

 

[Buzzman12]

I have the second dealer service due with a capped "price" of $500 odd which I am not worried about.

What I do worry about is the requirement to change the brake fluid.....

I hate people messing with my car. So much so that I serviced my G8 V8 (Commodore SSV) every service after the first and sold it (BRAND NEW) after 14 years without a dent or a mark strictly serviced with genuine parts.

I am thinking of doing the 20,000 myself. But what are people's thoughts of not changing brake fluid? Personally I never touch brake fluid

and 20,000 kms?..........other manufacturers don't even think about looking at brake fluid for 60,,000kms..........

A 2 year old car with 20,000 kms (12,000 miles) and they want to do a brake fluid swap? Absolutely ridiculous.
This is a money grab, pure and simple, and after almost 60 years of car ownership experience, it wouldn't surprise me in the least that it doesn't actually get done. I've been burned more than once paying for service that wasn't done. I don't trust anyone anymore, least of all dealerships.
What they'll do is turkey baste a little fluid out of the reservoir, add some clean stuff, and voila, there's your brake fluid flush.
Like other comments on here, I have never done it on any car, ever. I have never had issues, and I keep my cars a long time.
Doesn't mean you shouldn't do it at some point, but not at 12,000 miles.
Other opinions may differ..lol

 

[killinghall]

I've just done my 4th service with the dealer so 2 brake fluid changes already. The techs are a proficient bunch and I've never had anything to complain about.

Personally, with all my cars, I just go along with the scheduled maintenance requirements.

 

[Grump]

Just checked the Australian service manual, yup 20k for brake fluid, just nuts. At a glance every other interval is the same as Canada's. Maybe you guys outlawed the good stuff when it comes to brake fluid? /s

 

[Ah GetFd]

I had a quick look at the other Kia models and they are all second service change brake fluid but at 30,000kms.

 

[Ah GetFd]

I guess I will go with the dealer service regime

 

[killinghall]

Help me understand...if you can splash cash on 2 GTs, why are you scrimping over a few hundred dollars a year?

 

[Ah GetFd]

Read the very first sentence on the very first post "I have the second dealer service due with a capped "price" of $500 odd which I am not worried about..........."

I am not scrimping over the price. I am pointing out the pointless regime of pulling things apart that don't need to be pulled apart. They can service it. They just don't need to undo brake lines. just the same as they don't need to drain the power steering fluid. The coolant. Refrigerant gas. They are just looking for reasons to pull things apart at 20,000kms. Done.

 

[Ah GetFd]

Help me understand...if you can splash cash on 2 GTs, why are you scrimping over a few hundred dollars a year?

and to help you understand............

I don't waste a few hundred here and a few hundred there not that it was the problem.

I save thousands a year not hundreds and I get the best money can buy