1" Phenolic intake manifold spacer.

Reminds me of the 90's when we were all building Hondas. Hondata had an intake manifold gasket for the B and H series engines that did the same thing. About 1/2 inch thick ABS plastic material that spaced out the intake manifold from the head. Saved on heat exchange and heat soak, plus allowed the air more length to straighten out and not be so turbulent for more even distribution in the cylinders.

Not a huge gain, but when you've done everything else you can, every little bit helps. The proof is in the pudding as they say.
 
Any plans for sxth to use this to allow for full e85?
Great question. US Rally team reached out to me and they are doing all the R&D, plumbing, hardware, ect for Meth. It will be a 100% turnkey solution that can be bought through them. I haven't had a company reach out for Fuel DI yet. I'd be open to send one out pre tapped for injectors just like I did for US Rally team.
 
Any potential downsides? Is this like longer intake runners that increase power at low rpm, while reducing a bit at higher rpm? And since we never run past ~5500 (for peak power), we don't really see the downside?
This is more relevant with NA cars than it is with turbo cars. With NA cars the velocity of air entering can have a major impact on performance, when properly setup you can actually measure positive pressure on the back of the intake valve immediately before the valve opens. But this is a function of intake harmonics so it only occurs over a very narrow range of RPM. Turbo cars only care about intake charge velocity off boost, once you start building boost volumetric flow becomes more important.
Reminds me of the 90's when we were all building Hondas. Hondata had an intake manifold gasket for the B and H series engines that did the same thing. About 1/2 inch thick ABS plastic material that spaced out the intake manifold from the head. Saved on heat exchange and heat soak, plus allowed the air more length to straighten out and not be so turbulent for more even distribution in the cylinders.

Not a huge gain, but when you've done everything else you can, every little bit helps. The proof is in the pudding as they say.
This is also a misconception that dates back to the very beginning of motorsport, on port injection engines you want turbulence and tumbling as the charge moves toward the cylinder and past the injector. This promotes better fuel mixing and atomization and was the entire premise of the great debate on whether intakes should be polished or not in the carburated days. The result was a smooth cast finish intake flowed more than a mirror polished intake because the turbulence disturbed the boundary layer, and this layer effectively reduced the diameter of the intake runners.
Distribution to the cylinders is more a factor of plenum volume and shape.


On our engines, aka TGDI engines, we want to maximize flow while minimizing the inertia(boost lag), this is why we have such small plenum volumes, a spacer helps with off-boost performance but does little else once you are on boost. A rough estimate says to move from 11.06 ETs to 10.96 would take 15-20 HP at the wheels, I don't see a spacer making that large of a difference on a boosted car but, as always with stuff like this you're wrong until proven right so take this with a grain of salt.
 
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This is more relevant with NA cars than it is with turbo cars. With NA cars the velocity of air entering can have a major impact on performance, when properly setup you can actually measure positive pressure on the back of the intake valve immediately before the valve opens. But this is a function of intake harmonics so it only occurs over a very narrow range of RPM. Turbo cars only care about intake charge velocity off boost, once you start building boost volumetric flow becomes more important.

This is also a misconception that dates back to the very beginning of motorsport, on port injection engines you want turbulence and tumbling as the charge moves toward the cylinder and past the injector. This promotes better fuel mixing and atomization and was the entire premise of the great debate on whether intakes should be polished or not in the carburated days. The result was a smooth cast finish intake flowed more than a mirror polished intake because the turbulence disturbed the boundary layer, and this layer effectively reduced the diameter of the intake runners.
Distribution to the cylinders is more a factor of plenum volume and shape.


On our engines, aka TGDI engines, we want to maximize flow while minimizing the inertia(boost lag), this is why we have such small plenum volumes, a spacer helps with off-boost performance but does little else once you are on boost. A rough estimate says to move from 11.06 ETs to 10.96 would take 15-20 HP at the wheels, I don't see a spacer making that large of a difference on a boosted car but, as always with stuff like this you're wrong until proven right so take this with a grain of salt.
Nicely stated!
 
That would make a great port injected nitrous base too!
 
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I tried for 10's for nearly a year. Once I put it in I ran an 11.06, then 11.01, then a 10.96. I truly believe it helped. I wouldn't of spent countless of hours CADing this on my own time. I even bought a used lower intake off ebay to model this. It's been proven since the 60's that intake spacers work, period. Every dyno test, every track run, proves it over and over and over. This platform is no different. You will gain a few HP and a few pounds of torque. The big advantage is separating the air (and meth if you have it) from the heat source just a bit. That results in denser air and more fuel. Lastly, getting to plug three with this in is just as easy as all the rest.
There's always haters and pundits and that's fine, I'm perfectly fine with them not running it, LOL
Well it's true that it gives more access to the spark plugs. However the install is a pain and a half lol. Some of the connectors don't have enough slack and are very tight. Also with the SXTH dual catch cans and the ark SFX hood I had clearance issues and had to modify the bracket. Will probably end up doing a tb coolant bypass since those hoses are super tight.
 
Well it's true that it gives more access to the spark plugs. However the install is a pain and a half lol. Some of the connectors don't have enough slack and are very tight. Also with the SXTH dual catch cans and the ark SFX hood I had clearance issues and had to modify the bracket. Will probably end up doing a tb coolant bypass since those hoses are super tight.
All good info! I had already done the bypass. I just bought a Sxth dual catch and I'm replacing my Add1 dual setup so we'll see how it goes.
 
All good info! I had already done the bypass. I just bought a Sxth dual catch and I'm replacing my Add1 dual setup so we'll see how it goes.
Yeah also you loose the intake charge pipe support and the side manifold support. Might rig up something later that connects the manifold to the oem location.
 
Will probably end up doing a tb coolant bypass since those hoses are super tight.
I will be replacing spark plugs and manually cleaning valves in the near future, and was thinking about doing that.
 
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I'm in California so the chances of frozen TB is pretty low
I talked to a mechanic i know. He told me that system is used to adjust cold engine idle, and without it it will idle higher for longer. Nothing about freezing. Also, my previous car was turbocharged one, and it didn't have any coolant going through TB. Never had any problem with freezing.
 
All good info! I had already done the bypass. I just bought a Sxth dual catch and I'm replacing my Add1 dual setup so we'll see how it goes.
Did you notice any difference from tb coolant bypass??
 
and manually cleaning valves in the near future
Are you referring to the intake valves? If so, how many miles, and how do you plan on doing them?
 
Are you referring to the intake valves? If so, how many miles, and how do you plan on doing them?
Correct, intake valves. With 80k miles it will be my second time(first one at 40k). Will soak the closed valves in cleaner for 1-1.5 hours, and than using toothbrush and picks remove as much carbon as possible. Than rotate the engine to close open ports and repeat the process. I'm interested to see how much carbon there is after 40k miles, since i've bought it with 22k miles and didn't know the history.
 
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Correct, intake valves. With 80k miles it will be my second time(first one at 40k). Will soak the closed valves in cleaner for 1-1.5 hours, and than using toothbrush and picks remove as much carbon as possible. Than rotate the engine to close open ports and repeat the process. I'm interested to see how much carbon there is after 40k miles, since i've bought it with 22k miles and didn't know the history.
That sounds like it would make a very interesting new thread - hint, hint! :)

When do you plan on doing it?
 
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I used to running something like this on a G35 and it resulted in a few hp on that n/a engine.

I would like to know the results of this as well on a Stinger/G70.
Made me think about the intake plenum spacer I used on my G35 at the time.. Basically, it allowed better breathing for the back two cylinders where the stock plenum was restrictive for styling purposes. I've seen claims of 30 to 40hp gains. but more realistically
it was likely closer to 10hp. The noticeable difference was better throttle response.

You can google all kinds of info about it G35, 350Z, etc. plenum spacers.
 
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Just did. It's in "how to" section
Nicely done, thanks for taking the time for everyone!

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Sxth entertained this spacer for 6 x port injection, we'll see.
 
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I recently got the 1 inch spacer installed on my car. Say what you will but I feel more torque between 3k to 5k RPM. I haven't tested my top end. Most driving is low end and mid range so I'm satisfied.
 
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