Lozic ECU + TCU + AWD Tune

[Seeing_Red]

The G70 is 300ish lbs lighter than the stinger in the same trim level as well as the conditions where probably really good for that run. any idea if he has proof of the 3.6 with no mods? that seems stupidly fast for a 1.3bar with no supporting mods

I don't recall if he posted a dragy or just stated he did it but I seem to remember him posting proof! It was quite a ways back in this thread as he was one of the Lozic OGs from what I gather.. @Slip_Angle I'm sure could chime in if he wants. He's been very active and helpful throughout this thread and doesn't strike me as a guy that would make something up for street cred ya know.

 

[Pearly]

You're the first person I've read that took advantage of choosing the shift points by gear! I was almost thinking of buying the ECU first and getting it on a dyno to try and get the shift points right at max power/boost for each gear.. not sure if it would be worth the effort but nice in theory!

I almost did every gear but thought that was overkill. So just have the two separate points. I guarantee you and can prove it’s more effective. Your logic with a dyno and then chose based on that is great! I just used my JB4 logs.

 

[G70LEbyAdoom]

I don't recall if he posted a dragy or just stated he did it but I seem to remember him posting proof! It was quite a ways back in this thread as he was one of the Lozic OGs from what I gather.. @Slip_Angle I'm sure could chime in if he wants. He's been very active and helpful throughout this thread and doesn't strike me as a guy that would make something up for street cred ya know.

Yep, Looked on draggy for giggles and there it is, Ill be damned. between it having less weight and a really good launch, dude is absolutely moving. its a 3.69, so realistically a 3.7, but that's still very fast for what is considered a mild lozic tune.

 

[Pearly]

Yep, Looked on draggy for giggles and there it is, Ill be damned. between it having less weight and a really good launch, dude is absolutely moving. its a 3.69, so realistically a 3.7, but that's still very fast for what is considered a mild lozic tune.

Hopefully Slip will chime in exactly how he achieved this. That is so damn cool.

 

[GennyGuy]

Hey All!

Wanted to thank you guys for your time first and foremost! I just purchased a 2019 G70 3.3T Dynamic and, believe it or not, I've read through ALL 134 pages of this Lozic ECU+TCU+AWD thread. My vehicle being a bit more of a "rare" model, I am planning on keeping it 100% stock but want to unlock potential in the vehicle without sacrificing too much in the longevity department.

Hoping to pick you guys brain on the following:

1. I am in AZ where pnly 91 is readily available. People only using 91. Do you feel as though the 1.4 would be appropriate or is the 1.3 still plenty fast and no need to push it further. Those with 1.3, do you ever wish you had the additional power?

2. With the TCU tune, guys with level 2, do you feel as though the transmission is tuned in such a way that it was asking for trouble long term and may be better to go with a 1 or even a 0 of longevity is a concern?

3. With the additional power level options being added for power by mode, would you choose that option? Say 1.2 in Eco and Comfort and 1.3 in sport? Or for those who did not choose that feature still feel like you'd rather have a consistent power level across all modes?

4. With the 1.3/1.4 tune, do you feel as though your car would be even that much faster with the AWD tune? Do you have any traction issues when launching and do you think the AWD tune would remedy those? Or, again, the difference wouldn't be worth the potential added stress on the driveline components.

5. Lastly, do you feel as though I should still buy a JB4 to check Lozic's tune? It seems as though that from the original purchases to now, quite a bit of refinement has occurred with his tunes and the quality of them seem to be dialed in as much as any of the Lap3 tunes.

Again, thank you guys so much for your input! I know it was rather long winded and understand if theres not answers to everything I've asked other than personal preference. Any information you guys have to provide will be greatly appreciated!

- Seeing_Red

Congrats on your purchase. I think there are a couple of things to answer before these answers will really help you but we'll all try. Some of those questions are:
1) What are your actual goals for the car (speed, hp, track car, stance, etc)
2) What car are you coming from? Speed is subjective to most people. If I drove a 98 Corolla everyday, the second I get in a base model Sonata, I might think that's "fast"
3) The last sentence you wrote is confusing as all hell. How do you keep a car stock and "unlock potential"?

Anyway, I'll give my 2 cents on the numbered questions.

1. 1.4 is the fast. Get that, nobody says you have to use all the boost that you get with it. It also doesn't matter your octane, Lozic will tune for 91. and you can have 1.4 or probably 10.8 idk. They are separate items.

2. Yeah, I think I'm shortening the life of the transmission with this pressure. But Hyundai/Kia/Genesis do not have a troubled past with transmissions, so I'm just not that worried about it. If I were to do it again, I would probably choose 0 because I like smooth shifts. I do not regret my decision, and the upside is that car is faster. I race, it helps.

3. Just take all the power and learn how to control your foot. The car feels very different in Eco mode vs Sport, but it never feels slow.

4. AWD isn't worth it for you without goals listed. Specifically, if you're not road/racing, time attack, autocross, or whatever else goes in there you probably won't notice the difference. I have it, I think it's worth an extra .1 to .2 in the quarter mile and I had the money. I don't suggest it for most people unless they have the rest of their mods list complete.

5. Buy a JB4 because there are a lot of things you can do with it, including checking logs.

 

[Seeing_Red]

Drop in filters is all for you then! What is your elevation at? I think with what Tunes you are wanting and with a good launch you can get into the 3s. I think 3.6 is a stretch but you never know until you try!

I am one of the biggest BMS supporters out there. Products and services are top of the game. The only time I won’t recommend their products is the catch can- IMO you don’t want it to just drain back to the oil pan. You want to be able to drain it. Although I live where we have winters and you probably don’t so I’m sure it affects me more than you. Lots of condensation along with oil. That’s why I want to drain it.

Elevation is ~1,000ft. The issues I will have is heat sink during our brutal summers here.. but winter time I'll be golden!

And thanks for the heads up on the catch can, I agree, seems like you wouldn't necessarily want oil that got picked up by a catch can to recirculate back into the pan. I'm not lazy enough to not want to just take a couple minutes to empty the damn thing lol

 

[GennyGuy]

You wont see that 3.6 without the supporting mods for it, as well as you better have some damn good pump gas.

Not only that, but Slip is in Canada. Why does nobody respect geographical differences? DA is not the same year round and it's definitely not the same thousands of miles apart. Every time I go to the Southwest, it's hot. Heat means slower car.

 

[AtomicGTL]

Thanks for the feedback! Yes I imagine that although the powertrain is the same, the launch techniques differ somewhat..
How do you feel about the 1.3 Lozic power level?

I like it. Also since we're limited to top tier gas like you guys, Its still pretty good. Anything above 1.3 for us may give us timing errors(pulling timing) I know slip originally had 1.5 and he was pulling timing and wasnt ideal for the health of the car. But you guys down south can do it

 

[G70LEbyAdoom]

I like it. Also since we're limited to top tier gas like you guys, Its still pretty good. Anything above 1.3 for us may give us timing errors(pulling timing) I know slip originally had 1.5 and he was pulling timing and wasnt ideal for the health of the car. But you guys down south can do it

This is not necessarily true, about half the states in the USA are limited to 91 octane. Some have e85 you can mix as well to make up for that, but not all. For example, my state has a weird cutoff point where we get Canada's leftovers. About half way up the state like crossing over an invisible line, 91 is the highest we can get. Yet in the southern parts of the state where I live, 93 is available. No e85 anywhere though

 

[AtomicGTL]

This is not necessarily true, about half the states in the USA are limited to 91 octane. Some have e85 you can mix as well to make up for that, but not all. For example, my state has a weird cutoff point where we get Canada's leftovers, about half way up the state, like crossing over an invisible line, 91 is the highest we can get, yet in the southern parts of the state where I live, 93 is available. No e85 anywhere though

Oh yes that is true. Idk why I assumed all you guys had access to e85 lol

 

[GennyGuy]

No need to apologize for the novel at all! Appreciate you taking the time to reply with all that info. And I mean stock as in 100% stock, not so much as a new intake. Seeing Slip_Angle run a 3.6 0-60 is enough to tell me that many of the bolt on mods for these vehicles are more for asthetic/sound/personal preference.

I was leaning towards the 1.4 as well, based on the recent developments in "boost ready" mode, did you decide to go with that? And if so did you do always on or the 2k RPM option? Paying attention to my driving, it seems like the car really only exceeds 2k on spirited driving or in sport mode where the car is staying in a lower gear.

Thanks for the TCU insight too man!

The only reason I was highly considering getting the AWD is ourely based on the fact that I'm not planning on doing any other mods so it may be good for me just to get that little extra performance out of the vehicle. Wish more people ran that mod to know if the "slightly faster" "faster" and "much faster" option was best for daily driving with the occasional freeway and stoplight "fun".

Excited to become part of the 3.3t family regardless! Got my car this past Saturday and already in love... (coming from a Daytona 392 Charger)

I don't know what you consider bolt-on mods, but you're most likely not running the times you think you will with a stock car. If that were the case, then those are the numbers that EVERYONE would be getting and just save the money.

Anyone else notice, we are getting a lot of crossover from the 392 owners. Probably because we've been hunting them for the last 3 years. I posted somewhere else on the forum a PSA from a 392 owner .

 

[Pearly]

This is not necessarily true, about half the states in the USA are limited to 91 octane. Some have e85 you can mix as well to make up for that, but not all. For example, my state has a weird cutoff point where we get Canada's leftovers. About half way up the state like crossing over an invisible line, 91 is the highest we can get. Yet in the southern parts of the state where I live, 93 is available. No e85 anywhere though

I could be wrong but I think he means quality of gas “top tier” not just octane level.

 

[G70LEbyAdoom]

Oh yes that is true. Idk why I assumed all you guys had access to e85 lol

I wish. The state below me has it though, but not worth the drive unless I happen to be traveling through it.

 

[AtomicGTL]

I could be wrong but I think he means quality of gas “top tier” not just octane level.

This too.

 

[G70LEbyAdoom]

I could be wrong but I think he means quality of gas “top tier” not just octane level.

Yes, but a top tier 91 will still yield less performance than a top tier 93, thus making the octane levels just as important.

 

[AtomicGTL]

why am I here, still sulking. "unwatch thread"

bye.

 

[GennyGuy]

Yep, planning on getting the HKS plugs too! Appreciate the reminder there.

And wow ok, that's a good amount overall, certainly enough that you don't want it to go into your intake. Most seem to have the BMS or Mishimoto catch can, any real difference between the both or suggestions for others as far as look/fitment/performance are concerned?

Idk the Mishi one. But the BMS is supposed to be zero maintenance because I believe it filters it somewhere else? I don't remember and it's time to check soon anyway. Can let you know if it's truly Zero Maintenance or someone else can answer it if they know. Fitment was perfect and easy.

 

[G70LEbyAdoom]

why am I here, still sulking. "unwatch thread"

bye.

Turning tail and running when it gets rough, must be French Canadian

 

[Seeing_Red]

Congrats on your purchase. I think there are a couple of things to answer before these answers will really help you but we'll all try. Some of those questions are:
1) What are your actual goals for the car (speed, hp, track car, stance, etc)
2) What car are you coming from? Speed is subjective to most people. If I drove a 98 Corolla everyday, the second I get in a base model Sonata, I might think that's "fast"
3) The last sentence you wrote is confusing as all hell. How do you keep a car stock and "unlock potential"?

Anyway, I'll give my 2 cents on the numbered questions.

1. 1.4 is the fast. Get that, nobody says you have to use all the boost that you get with it. It also doesn't matter your octane, Lozic will tune for 91. and you can have 1.4 or probably 10.8 idk. They are separate items.

2. Yeah, I think I'm shortening the life of the transmission with this pressure. But Hyundai/Kia/Genesis do not have a troubled past with transmissions, so I'm just not that worried about it. If I were to do it again, I would probably choose 0 because I like smooth shifts. I do not regret my decision, and the upside is that car is faster. I race, it helps.

3. Just take all the power and learn how to control your foot. The car feels very different in Eco mode vs Sport, but it never feels slow.

4. AWD isn't worth it for you without goals listed. Specifically, if you're not road/racing, time attack, autocross, or whatever else goes in there you probably won't notice the difference. I have it, I think it's worth an extra .1 to .2 in the quarter mile and I had the money. I don't suggest it for most people unless they have the rest of their mods list complete.

5. Buy a JB4 because there are a lot of things you can do with it, including checking logs.

Appreciate the reply! And thank you, glad to be a part of the fam here.

1. It's a daily driver, I don't intend to track the car (other than maybe just to go once or twice for fun and see what it's like) and I don't intend to drag race it. I just want to have a great car to drive that can surprise 90% of the vehicles on the road if someone wants to play.

2. I'm coming from a '17 Charger Daytona 392. It's a fast car but more in a raw and unrefined way. Already loving how much tighter and balanced this vehicle feels as well as it seeming just as fast from a roll. I'm hoping to turn my G70 into a "Korean M3"

3. You're absolutely right.. I understand I'm not keeping it stock by switching out ECU/TCU etc. But basically only performing mods I could reverse back to OEM with little to no effort, sorry I did a poor job of explaining that. Supposedly only 400 of the Dynamic edition were made and, while that's merely interesting, I think it's kind of cool and would like to keep as much of the OEM parts in place as I can.

Thanks for all the additional feedback too! Sounds like the 1.4 and maybe TCU shift power 1 and since I don't plan on spending money in much else for the car, I think I might get that extra .1/.2 of speed and get the AWD too. What option did you choose for the AWD? It comes in slightly faster, faster, and much faster correct? Any recommendations there?

 

[Pearly]

Yes, but a top tier 91 will still yield less performance than a top tier 93, thus making the octane levels just as important.