Sport Mode and Paddle Shifters

[xot1]

different shape whish they would make some like this for the stinger

They do!
I actually have them installed in my car!

See for yourself (don't have a better pic) :

 

[xot1]

@Mach_Tuck @corradoMR2 the Stinger can hold shifts at redline while using paddle shifters/manual mode if you are in Sport + mode with traction and stability control off. I believe it also stays in manual mode indefinitely after you paddle shift while you're in Sport +.

Why wouldn't they allow it with stability control ON?
You don't always want to disable all safety features...

 

[English D]

They do!
I actually have them installed in my car!

See for yourself (don't have a better pic) :
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where did you get them can you post link

 

[xot1]

where did you get them can you post link

I got them from here : Savanini 정품 패들쉬프트 익스텐션 연장킷 [기아 스팅어]/패들시프트 : Savanini Korea ($99)
Not sure if they ship to US.

 

[Mach_Tuck]

Does US even have Sport +? Thought Sport only then custom.

 

[Dave Miller]

Does US even have Sport +? Thought Sport only then custom.

Idk if it's the same as sport + in other countries but if you press and hold your traction control off button it will enable launch control and make the paddle shifters act a bit differently.

 

[xot1]

Idk if it's the same as sport + in other countries but if you press and hold your traction control off button it will enable launch control and make the paddle shifters act a bit differently.

I wonder who's idea it was to make cars different for each country. It is very confusing.

 

[eflyguy]

I've driven a handful of paddle-shift vehicles, including BMW, Lexus, and Mercedes "comparables", and also spent a lot of time (many hours) in my daughters Challenger. As much as the auto-shift seems like a "nanny" feature, it was not intrusive in my test drives, and the overall shift feel is almost as good as the DCT in much more expensive vehicles.

I ride motorcycles - some are "sport" bikes - and the general consensus is to never shift while turning/in a curve, but although I am no expert, it does not upset the balance of the bike if done smoothly.

The shifts in the Stinger are incredibly smooth, compared to many other vehicles I've driven or owned. Perhaps when I own one myself, I'll have a different opinion, but I intentionally provoked them in curves when I drove them, and was really impressed with how little effect it had on the overall balance and stability.

 

[Mach_Tuck]

Idk if it's the same as sport + in other countries but if you press and hold your traction control off button it will enable launch control and make the paddle shifters act a bit differently.

Ahhh...that makes more sense. I thought you meant via the Drive Mode knob.

Thanks

 

[xot1]

Idk if it's the same as sport + in other countries but if you press and hold your traction control off button it will enable launch control and make the paddle shifters act a bit differently.

As far as I know, if you're in Sport mode AND have DSC off, the car will not upshift automatically.

 

[Marc Collins]

@Mach_Tuck @corradoMR2 the Stinger can hold shifts at redline while using paddle shifters/manual mode if you are in Sport + mode with traction and stability control off. I believe it also stays in manual mode indefinitely after you paddle shift while you're in Sport +.

Too bad we bad drivers in North America aren't smart enough to warrant a Sport + mode from Kia.

Manual mode should be manual with no upshifting or return to D unless it is a safety issue. For example, in Sport mode if you are in a high gear and accelerate hard the car will hold the gear (as it should). If you literally floor it (hit the detent button), it will then downshift. This is not the end of the world, but still not optimal, though is undoubtedly done for "safety" reasons (someone needs panic thrust and is too dumb to remember they were in manual mode). I can live with it because there is enough thrust in the Stinger that you don't need to hit the full throttle detent for any sort of normal driving. Holding a gear will be more than possible as long as you don't fully floor it.

The whole implementation of manual mode sucks in almost all cars.

Apparently in the Stinger DBW, if you pull the gear lever back twice, it puts things in manual mode (similar to sliding the lever sideways in a traditional shifter). Can someone confirm if this works outside Sport mode (where you only need to tap a paddle for it to enter and stay in manual mode)?

 

[corradoMR2]

Apparently in the Stinger DBW, if you pull the gear lever back twice, it puts things in manual mode (similar to sliding the lever sideways in a traditional shifter). Can someone confirm if this works outside Sport mode (where you only need to tap a paddle for it to enter and stay in manual mode)?

Outside Sport, if you tap the paddle, the transmission will shift and after a few seconds (6-8 seconds) will autoshift and go back in D.

 

[Rufus]

The base GT has the same shifter as the base 2.0. From what I understand, putting the actual shifter itself into manual mode does eliminate the gear reversion found when utilizing the paddles. The only thing is you'd need to shift from the console, not the paddles, according to the guys at the dealership. I cannot personally attest to this...

 

[mldavis2]

I don't have my car yet, but in the manual it does say that if you go into manual mode and hold the paddle shifter(s) for more than one second, it will revert back to automatic mode. So is it possible that the return to automatic is because the paddle shifter is being held too long?
(Manual p. 5/15)

 

[Marc Collins]

Outside Sport, if you tap the paddle, the transmission will shift and after a few seconds (6-8 seconds) will autoshift and go back in D.

Already know that. The question is if you put into manual mode outside Sport (by moving the shift lever over on the mechanical shiter or pulling back into D a second time on the DBW shifter) first, does it change/delay that behaviour of flopping back to D at the first opportunity?

 

[xot1]

Already know that. The question is if you put into manual mode outside Sport (by moving the shift lever over on the mechanical shiter or pulling back into D a second time on the DBW shifter) first, does it change/delay that behaviour of flopping back to D at the first opportunity?

I think there are two ways of going back to D mode
1. wait until the timer expires (6~8seconds?)
2. pull back both paddles
I will try and tell you

 

[corradoMR2]

Already know that. The question is if you put into manual mode outside Sport (by moving the shift lever over on the mechanical shiter or pulling back into D a second time on the DBW shifter) first, does it change/delay that behaviour of flopping back to D at the first opportunity?

Per your previous post, I tried double-tapping (down) the DBW gear shifter and does nothing. Would have been nice to engage manual mode that way but only way is via the paddle shifters. Note, tapping the gear shifter forward will of course put the gear in N.

Hope this answers your question.

 

[Marc Collins]

Per your previous post, I tried double-tapping (down) the DBW gear shifter and does nothing. Would have been nice to engage manual mode that way but only way is via the paddle shifters. Note, tapping the gear shifter forward will of course put the gear in N.

Hope this answers your question.

Thanks--read somewhere that the double pull was how to do it, but I guess the DbW models have no physical way to access manual mode.

Given this, the next question is how the non-DbW cars behave in each drive mode when the lever is physically moved over into manual mode. It would be ironic if the DbW cars had less manual control than the regular ones.

 

[Dark_Knight GT]

I can confirm that in Sport mode with the shift by wire transmission, it stays in the gear you select with the paddle shifter for as long as you want.

I believe for the more traditional shifter, there is a dedicated + - gate which would indicate full control of manual mode when physically in there.

So, I think I missing something obvious here, so help me out folks. I have a GT1, which I would submit has a “true” manual mode. The GT2 (which the wife has) does not. My experience is the GT1 tranny in manual mode behaves no differently than the “true” manual mode that my 340 BMW had. Like the stinger, the Bmw would upshift when it thought I went asleep at the wheel and the rpms were too high. What am I missing?

MR2, I think we’re speaking the same language here.

 

[Mach_Tuck]

"True" manual mode IMO would be the car does not shift for you and would instead hold or bounce the rev limiter. My E46 M3 SMG behaves this way in every gear. The car will NOT upshift for you in any event. It will downshift as you slow or come to a stop and will not let an over rev occur via manual downshift but that is it.

The Lexus RCF also has a "true" manual in every gear except 1. 2 thorugh 8 will bounce the limited.

I just picked up my GT2 so have not a chance to test but in all the test drives i did, not once did i see a bounce of the rev but rather an auto upshift occured. I would argue there is no "true" manual on this transmission...unitl someone figures out how to code it out of the system anyway.