Bad Seems I know more than Kia staff does!

[Licorice]

First scheduled maintenance on my Stinger. When I bought the car, the sales guy told me the intervals were 6 months/6,000 km (Severe Usage Conditions version, up here in the great white north), and he set my service interval reminder to that. I took my car in on Friday (to a different Kia dealer here in my city) at 6,170km and was told 'no worries, you use synthetic so a little overage like that is no problem - your next oil change is due at 12,000 km'. I happened to be looking at the owner's manual, and noticed that for "turbo" models, the interval is actually 6mo/5,000 km. I received the usual service follow-up email, and replied with a question about the maintenance interval on the Stinger - to which they replied "6mo/6,000 km". It wasn't until after I sent them a screen shot with the 6mo/5k highlighted that they said "ahhh yes, you have a turbo model, so it's 6/5". I wonder what wouldn've happened if I'd gone along with their 6/6 recommendation for a few years? I'm glad I won't have the chance to find out!!

 

[MerlintheMad]

Good call. The difference is not enough to worry about, in my opinion. Utah is a severe driving conditions state too. But the salt on the roads is only for c. three months out of the year. So, I have my service interval set at 4K miles. If 3K miles gives you peace of mind, you can't argue against it.

 

[D.J.]

"ahhh yes, you have a turbo model

what's the non turbo model?

 

[Licorice]

I think 5,000 km for synthetic oil is a bit over the top, but it's what the book says, so ...

The engine blew in my Kia Forte Koup, and although I was substantially under the mileage, it was about 3 weeks past the expiration of the 5yr/100k warranty. I had done every service on time at the same Kia dealership, and they came good for a new engine without me even having to ask ... so, although the 5k intervals are maybe a bit much, I'll do it for the potential goodwill down the road.

It just boggles my mind that people who make their living selling and servicing a particular brand are clueless about some things ... lol It's not like there's such a thing as a NON-turbo Stinger ...

 

[Licorice]

what's the non turbo model?

Exactly!!

 

[NS_Stinger]

Nothing would've happened, in fact it you change it every 10,000km nothing will ever happen either. The intervals are an absolute joke and money grab for a car that uses synthetic oil.

 

[Licorice]

Nothing would've happened, in fact it you change it every 10,000km nothing will ever happen either. The intervals are an absolute joke and money grab for a car that uses synthetic oil.

By "nothing would've happened", do you mean no harm would come to the engine? Quite possibly, but that wasn't my concern ... it was giving the dealership the opportunity to say "sorry, you went over" if I ever need them. I was speculating whether or not they'd stand by me if I did 5-years-worth of 6,000 km interval oil changes instead of 5-years-worth of 5,000 km interval oil changes!!

 

[DoctorStiches]

Hey guys so.... my dealer said 7k miles between.... you dont need to listen to them.... Or trust that warrenty

 

[stoopid]

5000 km = 3100 miles.

Hell. No. Synthetic is good for much longer, no matter the car/design/conditions. Definitely a scam interval.

 

[Licorice]

5000 km = 3100 miles.

Hell. No. Synthetic is good for much longer, no matter the car/design/conditions. Definitely a scam interval.

Would using regular oil (as long as it meets the specs in the manual - ACEA A5/B5 5W-30) be an option then, if I kept with the 5,000 km interval? I mean, in the grand scheme of things, the cost of a synthetic oil change every 5k isn't going to break the bank, but ... it does seem needlessly expensive and wasteful.

 

[D.J.]

Would using regular oil (as long as it meets the specs in the manual - ACEA A5/B5 5W-30) be an option then, if I kept with the 5,000 km interval? I mean, in the grand scheme of things, the cost of a synthetic oil change every 5k isn't going to break the bank, but ... it does seem needlessly expensive and wasteful.

Does your owners manual specify the use of Synthetic oil only?
My 2018 stinger does not mention anything about synthetic.

 

[MerlintheMad]

I know that many of us are OC(D) about changing our oil. Any normal quality oil is in reality going to last well beyond the oil change intervals listed in the manual: synthetic easily twice and more as long. Saying this does not mean that I am going let my oil go 12 months between changes, like I always did with all of my other very used vehicles my whole pre-Stinger life. Heh, I'd go even longer than a year sometimes, just checking every time I filled up to make sure the oil level was up.

I am a shamelessly indulgent Stinger owner: and if you feel even more indulgent and want to change your synthetic every 3K miles then have at it! But it would easily go 12K plus miles and be entirely viable at the end of that. Warranty, of course, says otherwise, but I'm sure there is a way around that, if wasting perfectly good oil bothers you more than too-frequent changes. Since nothing is going to happen to the engine by running oil 12K plus miles between changes, then there won't be any warranty work needed related to oil changes.

Let's finish up with the exception to the rule: the driver who really loves to beat on his turbos and kickdown switch any chance that s/he gets: and even more, tracks the car. Forget everything I said: change your oil a lot.

 

[runner1]

I go when I hit 20% life on my Honda Civic si, that’s usually 12000-13000km. This is same interval method I’ve used on all
My work sedans. I avg 180,000km every 3 years and trade at that point. All cars to date have been in perfect condition and quick as the day I purchased when traded. The Stinger I change every 8-10,000km or annually, and the oil is dirty and good condition. Just how I do it, but the oil life meters are pretty safe intervals according to the Ford/Lincoln/Chevy/Honda dealerships I frequent. My c6 was changed seasonally due to lower mileage yearly.

 

[RogueIV]

First scheduled maintenance on my Stinger. When I bought the car, the sales guy told me the intervals were 6 months/6,000 km (Severe Usage Conditions version, up here in the great white north), and he set my service interval reminder to that. I took my car in on Friday (to a different Kia dealer here in my city) at 6,170km and was told 'no worries, you use synthetic so a little overage like that is no problem - your next oil change is due at 12,000 km'. I happened to be looking at the owner's manual, and noticed that for "turbo" models, the interval is actually 6mo/5,000 km. I received the usual service follow-up email, and replied with a question about the maintenance interval on the Stinger - to which they replied "6mo/6,000 km". It wasn't until after I sent them a screen shot with the 6mo/5k highlighted that they said "ahhh yes, you have a turbo model, so it's 6/5". I wonder what wouldn've happened if I'd gone along with their 6/6 recommendation for a few years? I'm glad I won't have the chance to find out!!

What's severe about your driving conditions? If you really want to know how your oil is doing send a sample during your next change to Blackstone for analysis.

 

[Licorice]

Does your owners manual specify the use of Synthetic oil only?
My 2018 stinger does not mention anything about synthetic.

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No, my manual reads exactly the same as yours, no mention of "synthetic", only the specs at the bottom of your screen shot.

I go when I hit 20% life on my Honda Civic si, that’s usually 12000-13000km. This is same interval method I’ve used on all
My work sedans. I avg 180,000km every 3 years and trade at that point. All cars to date have been in perfect condition and quick as the day I purchased when traded. The Stinger I change every 8-10,000km or annually, and the oil is dirty and good condition. Just how I do it, but the oil life meters are pretty safe intervals according to the Ford/Lincoln/Chevy/Honda dealerships I frequent. My c6 was changed seasonally due to lower mileage yearly.

I'm going to stick to the 6mo/5,000 km interval in the manual, just so there are no issues down the road if I ever need warranty work.

What's severe about your driving conditions? If you really want to know how your oil is doing send a sample during your next change to Blackstone for analysis.

From my understanding, anyone in Canada has to go with the "severe" intervals. We don't all live in the frozen tundra, but we have to change our oil as if we do

 

[D.J.]

From my understanding, anyone in Canada has to go with the "severe" intervals. We don't all live in the frozen tundra, but we have to change our oil as if we do

All summer long?

Depending on your location within Canada - - probably a blend of normal and severe conditions.
So maybe 7500 or 8000 km intervals is more appropriate.


Lubrication blamed warranty claims are (fingers crossed) quite rare.

 

[Licorice]

All summer long?

Depending on your location within Canada - - probably a blend of normal and severe conditions.
So maybe 7500 or 8000 km intervals is more appropriate.


Lubrication blamed warranty claims are (fingers crossed) quite rare.

All summer long. The manual doesn't account for seasonal variations to the intervals. It's crazy, but there you go. I'm sure I could go with longer intervals and there'd be no harm, but I think I'll stop using synthetic, stick with the 5k intervals, and forego the 'crossing of the fingers' ... lol

 

[Devin]

2022 manual specifies full synthetic

 

[Licorice]

2022 manual specifies full synthetic

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Wow ... and what are the recommended intervals (both normal and severe)?

 

[Devin]

Wow ... and what are the recommended intervals (both normal and severe)?

As requested!