Brake Pulsating Pads Tire Failure

[Glenn Mendoza]

I have read very informative threads regarding the breaking systems in our Stingers. Unfortunately I have been and continue to battle Kia regarding our Stinger. Very early in its life it had the rotors turned because of pulsating. Well before 5K miles. It is a 2018 and just turned 17K miles and have been looked at several times.

For the 3rd time I am having the brakes looked at and they want me to pay over a thousand dollars for new rotors. The tire blew out on a recent trip and had zero tread damage (Nothing penertrated the tire) It had a sidewall failure. These two issues are now a week apart and Kia is a real pain.

Anyway they finally agreed to replacing the rotors but indicated the pads are 60% used and quoted over $200 to replace them when they do the rotors. The issue appears to be the pads and agree with the thread on the forum where the pads get hot and leave a residue on the rotors and cause the problem with the brembo rotors being capable of extremely high temeperatures. I ordered a set of Girodesic pads and will keep you posted how it turns out.

Kia is allegedly escalating the issue after the dealers indicated the car was not there for these serviice issues but I have the records. Real BS. No doubt Kia screwed up in the brake department otherwise we enjoy the car overall.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Welcome to the forum. I hope that you get your brakes issues worked out finally. I have over 34K miles on the OE pads and rotors, and my brakes have given perfect service, including several hard stops in tense situations. Otherwise, I drive like a grandpa. That is probably the main difference.

 

[NismoDPB]

What tires were on the car?

 

[itguy61]

I have read very informative threads regarding the breaking systems in our Stingers. Unfortunately I have been and continue to battle Kia regarding our Stinger. Very early in its life it had the rotors turned because of pulsating. Well before 5K miles. It is a 2018 and just turned 17K miles and have been looked at several times.

For the 3rd time I am having the brakes looked at and they want me to pay over a thousand dollars for new rotors. The tire blew out on a recent trip and had zero tread damage (Nothing penertrated the tire) It had a sidewall failure. These two issues are now a week apart and Kia is a real pain.

Anyway they finally agreed to replacing the rotors but indicated the pads are 60% used and quoted over $200 to replace them when they do the rotors. The issue appears to be the pads and agree with the thread on the forum where the pads get hot and leave a residue on the rotors and cause the problem with the brembo rotors being capable of extremely high temeperatures. I ordered a set of Girodesic pads and will keep you posted how it turns out.

Kia is allegedly escalating the issue after the dealers indicated the car was not there for these serviice issues but I have the records. Real BS. No doubt Kia screwed up in the brake department otherwise we enjoy the car overall.

Go to Khartunerz and get aftermarket pads. I got the Gyrodisc pads and it has been shake free for 12K miles. If you don't replace the pads with aftermarket pads you will just keep having repeats of the problem. They are easy to change out and you won't get charged that much to have it done. I would recommend replacing the pads as soon as they either turn or replace the rotors so that the factory pads don't start leaving deposits on the rotors again.

 

[G70 Owner]

Deleted. I’ll let someone else fight this battle

 

[CeramicGT001]

Go to Khartunerz and get aftermarket pads. I got the Gyrodisc pads and it has been shake free for 12K miles. If you don't replace the pads with aftermarket pads you will just keep having repeats of the problem. They are easy to change out and you won't get charged that much to have it done. I would recommend replacing the pads as soon as they either turn or replace the rotors so that the factory pads don't start leaving deposits on the rotors again.

Did you replace the rear pads too?

 

[D.J.]

I am in the middle of this battle myself.

Canada seems to have much better warranty on the rotors VS the USA.
We get 60,000 kms (37,000 miles).

I now have 40,000 Kms on my stinger and am on the 4th compete set of rotors.
Each time, the dealer has replaced All 4 rotors. My local dealer has never suggested machining the rotors, always straight replacement with new brembo rotors (no complaints from me)

They refuse to even acknowledge that the pads might be the root cause. But then again, the Kia service advisors I am dealing with are not performance enthusiasts in any way.

They also don't have any alternate or update parts - so replacing the pads with the same pads isn't really a fix either.

1st set - 0K - 11K Kms
2nd set 11k - 24K Kms
3rd set 24k - 40K Kms
4th set - 40K - present.

I have a case# with Kia Canada customer relations, and I am going to fight the good fight.

I realize I could likely replace the pads with aftermarket pads and probably solve the issue, but I still have 20,000Kms of rotor warranty, so I am going to see what Kia Canada customer relations has to offer.

Really sucks that this great car has this stupid problem, it really seems that is is just the brake pads at fault here.

Picture of my shiny new 4th rear disk.
I believe you can already see the pad deposits (smudge) on the rear disk with only 10 kms on the disks.

 

[GTA Jay]

I am in the middle of this battle myself.

Canada seems to have much better warranty on the rotors VS the USA.
We get 60,000 kms (37,000 miles).

Do you have anything to confirm this? My dealer told me it was 40k for our market and won’t replace mine as I’m over 50k

 

[NS_Stinger]

Do you have anything to confirm this? My dealer told me it was 40k for our market and won’t replace mine as I’m over 50k

Go out to your car, its written right in the manual of your warranty booklet.

 

[D.J.]

Do you have anything to confirm this? My dealer told me it was 40k for our market and won’t replace mine as I’m over 50k

Go here.
Kia Warranty Program | Kia Insurance | Kia Canada
Mine is a 2018 so I downloaded the 2018 PDF

Page 8 for me
Service items.
Plain as day.

It's more than pathetic and quite disturbing that your dealer would:
A - not be aware of this
B - make up false numbers I'm the absence of data.

That would leave a foul taste in my mouth regarding that dealer.




Service Items
Bulb, fuses, belts, brake pads and shoes, filters, clutch linings, and wiper blades will be covered ford defect in workmanship, but not for normal wear, for one year or 20,000 kms whichever
comes first. Brake rotors/discs will be covered for defects in material and workmanship but not for normal wear for 3 years/60,000 kms which ever
comes first. Spark plugs are covered by warranty only if electrical continuity fails and causes emission test failures. Regular spark plugs are covered for 24 months/48,000 kms., platinum and iridium spark plugs are covered for 3 years/60,000 kms. Alloy mags and chrome plated wheels and hand tools are covered for defects in material and workmanship but not for normal wear for 3 years/60,000 kms. After these periods, all items listed are considered normal maintenance and will be solely the owner's responsibility.

 

[fc528e]

Anyone with a 2020 GT have an idea if the brake pads are still the problematic ones? My 2020 GT2 has 900 miles and I'm debating on just changing them now to avoid warped rotors.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Anyone with a 2020 GT have an idea if the brake pads are still the problematic ones? My 2020 GT2 has 900 miles and I'm debating on just changing them now to avoid warped rotors.

"Don't borrow trouble." Jesus said that, in so many words.

My 2018 GT1 has not had the first indicator of pulsating brakes (aka warped rotors). But to directly answer your question: as far as I have heard Kia has not changed the brakes through the three years of production. Most, by far, do not have issues. So, just run on what you've already paid for unless or until you find out that you are one of "those" who needs to go aftermarket.

 

[TimT]

"Don't borrow trouble." Jesus said that, in so many words.

My 2018 GT1 has not had the first indicator of pulsating brakes (aka warped rotors). But to directly answer your question: as far as I have heard Kia has not changed the brakes through the three years of production. Most, by far, do not have issues. So, just run on what you've already paid for unless or until you find out that you are one of "those" who needs to go aftermarket.

For certain parts European models have different part codes for each MY, meaning that they are actually consistently changing the parts used in the car and I have no doubt that at one point they changed out the pads in the US, it would be absolutely stupid not to change producers when such a large scale issue arises.

 

[Glenn Mendoza]

What tires were on the car?

My original tires were the Bridgestone Potenza which were ironucally upgraded with the original re97as-02 no longer available. However the replacement has a different model number and identical thread. Either way i did find the original tire and had to pay for it and also paid for Stio Tech pads that are incredibly superior to the OEM. I normally use Akebono but are not available for our application.The issue is the kia pads get hot and puddle on the rotors causing the unbalance. The original rotors were replaced and from me research are excellent. Again the cheap pads suck..

At the end of the day and a lot of fighting Kia did give us 3 years of maintenance which should make up for the tire and pads.

 

[Glenn Mendoza]

Anyone with a 2020 GT have an idea if the brake pads are still the problematic ones? My 2020 GT2 has 900 miles and I'm debating on just changing them now to avoid warped rotors.

Rotors are fine pads are the issue that puddle onto the rotors. The pads heat up and leave material on the rotors.

 

[Freelancer]

OP, even buying cheap aftermarket will be better than the OE crap Kia put on these.

 

[Glenn Mendoza]

"Don't borrow trouble." Jesus said that, in so many words.

My 2018 GT1 has not had the first indicator of pulsating brakes (aka warped rotors). But to directly answer your question: as far as I have heard Kia has not changed the brakes through the three years of production. Most, by far, do not have issues. So, just run on what you've already paid for unless or until you find out that you are one of "those" who needs to go aftermarket.

The pads puddle which was discovered decades ago

 

[WRXtoStingerGT]

Anyone with a 2020 GT have an idea if the brake pads are still the problematic ones? My 2020 GT2 has 900 miles and I'm debating on just changing them now to avoid warped rotors.

I just posted about this exact problem in my 2020 Stinger GT RWD... so annoying lmfao

 

[Glenn Mendoza]

The pads puddle which was discovered decades ago

Just as an FYI the brembo rotors are top notch and again not the issue. If I had to do it again I would swap the pads before you have issues .

 

[fc528e]

Just as an FYI the brembo rotors are top notch and again not the issue. If I had to do it again I would swap the pads before you have issues .

Hearing/seeing this a decent amount and feel like this is the best route. Pretty easy and not very time consuming, either.