runfromcheney09
New Member
Hi guys, I'm new to the forum and looking to lease a Stinger and wanted to ask your advice. I am located in SE Michigan looking at either a 24 or 36/mo, 10K a year lease on a GT1 or GT2.
Some background: I have a Golf GTI I'm looking to replace with something bigger and more comfortable, but still just as fun to drive. I drifted to the Stinger since I own an Optima as well and it's been a great, trouble free winter car. I've experienced for myself that Kia has come a long way from the disposable shopping carts they used to build. I love the Stinger's styling and it impressed me when I drove it, I give kudos to Kia for stepping up to build the budget Audi VW doesn't want to sell anymore. I'm pretty much sold except.....
Dealing with Kia dealers so far have been a nightmare. The excellent dealer I bought my Optima from is rather far away and doesn't stock Stingers so I had to look elsewhere. Both dealers I have gone to so far have quoted me over $600/mo then got super pushy. (My credit score is over 720 and I'm not upside down in my trade, so neither of those are a factor). The second dealer was particularly egregious: Quoted me $650, When I was ready to leave he told me if I buy today I will get an extra $2K discount and that brought the payment down to $560, within range of what Kia's lease calculator was telling me. Since that confirmed my suspicion that he pulled the first batch of numbers out of his behind (a $2K capitalized cost reduction drops the payment by $90 on a 36 month?! Really?) I left.
I see plenty of people talking about getting Stinger GT1 or even GT2 leases in the mid $500s or even lower, but every dealer I go to quotes me over $600 and treats me like a moron. Went to a third dealer yesterday, they quoted me this on a Panthera Metal GT1: $2,500 dealer discount, $6,300 rebate, $1K down (To cover the closing costs, any left over reducing the capitalized costs) on a 36 month lease at 10K miles a year, $605 a month. The salesman then tried pushing me towards a white four cylinder they're trying to clear out. Tomorrow I am going to another Kia dealer which has a GT1 and GT2 in Aurora Black (my preferred color), is advertising dealer discounts $1K higher than the other dealer and is a TrueCar dealer, I'll see what they put in front of me.
Are my expectations unrealistic? Is Kia's lease calculator as accurate as an Enron financial disclosure and I'm anticipating a low payment I'll never get? $600/mo is the price of admission for a GT and if I don't like it I should get a 4 cylinder? Or are the numbers I'm getting from these dealers indeed padded? Is there anything else I could be doing to try to get these numbers down or do Stingers just lease that badly?
Some background: I have a Golf GTI I'm looking to replace with something bigger and more comfortable, but still just as fun to drive. I drifted to the Stinger since I own an Optima as well and it's been a great, trouble free winter car. I've experienced for myself that Kia has come a long way from the disposable shopping carts they used to build. I love the Stinger's styling and it impressed me when I drove it, I give kudos to Kia for stepping up to build the budget Audi VW doesn't want to sell anymore. I'm pretty much sold except.....
Dealing with Kia dealers so far have been a nightmare. The excellent dealer I bought my Optima from is rather far away and doesn't stock Stingers so I had to look elsewhere. Both dealers I have gone to so far have quoted me over $600/mo then got super pushy. (My credit score is over 720 and I'm not upside down in my trade, so neither of those are a factor). The second dealer was particularly egregious: Quoted me $650, When I was ready to leave he told me if I buy today I will get an extra $2K discount and that brought the payment down to $560, within range of what Kia's lease calculator was telling me. Since that confirmed my suspicion that he pulled the first batch of numbers out of his behind (a $2K capitalized cost reduction drops the payment by $90 on a 36 month?! Really?) I left.
I see plenty of people talking about getting Stinger GT1 or even GT2 leases in the mid $500s or even lower, but every dealer I go to quotes me over $600 and treats me like a moron. Went to a third dealer yesterday, they quoted me this on a Panthera Metal GT1: $2,500 dealer discount, $6,300 rebate, $1K down (To cover the closing costs, any left over reducing the capitalized costs) on a 36 month lease at 10K miles a year, $605 a month. The salesman then tried pushing me towards a white four cylinder they're trying to clear out. Tomorrow I am going to another Kia dealer which has a GT1 and GT2 in Aurora Black (my preferred color), is advertising dealer discounts $1K higher than the other dealer and is a TrueCar dealer, I'll see what they put in front of me.
Are my expectations unrealistic? Is Kia's lease calculator as accurate as an Enron financial disclosure and I'm anticipating a low payment I'll never get? $600/mo is the price of admission for a GT and if I don't like it I should get a 4 cylinder? Or are the numbers I'm getting from these dealers indeed padded? Is there anything else I could be doing to try to get these numbers down or do Stingers just lease that badly?