Sport Mode and Paddle Shifters

On my test drive, I was in sport mode, I had used the paddle shifters within th last minute, I was not anywhere near redline, and it up-shifted for me. I don't want to turn off all the nannies just to get the paddle shifters to behave properly.

Thanks for confirming and 100% agree with you. This s**** sorry but not acceptable for this car when so many mainstream cars and SUVs give the driver control. I understand auto shifting at redline but not before. Again my bad as this would have been a deal breaker but now i am rethinking my purchase. Bummer.
 
All, the manual Sal (Admin) posted in the forum indicates there may be full control afterwards! Can someone please confirm manual control in Sport mode? I.e. stay in gear while accelerator is depressed for more than 6 secs. If the tranny doesn't go back to D, we got control!!:D

Paddle shifter (Manual mode)
The paddle shifter is available when
the shift lever is in the D (Drive) posi-
tion.
Pull the [+] or [-] paddle shifter once
to shift up or down one gear and the
system changes from automatic
mode to manual mode.
When the vehicle speed is lower
than 4.3 mph (7km/h), if you depress
the accelerator pedal for more than 6
seconds (Except drive mode (Sport,
Custom
). For more information, refer
to Drive mode integrated control sys-
tem in chapter 5) or if you move the
shift lever to D (Drive) again or if you
pull the [+] paddle shifter more than
1 second, the system changes from
manual mode to automatic mode
 
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So when I shift down I haven't been pushing the engine past 4k, I think I've been pretty consistent there. And yes I've been slowing down as you describe, applying the breaks only in the last 20 feet or so (typically already in 1st by then). I'm certainly not street racing here. I'll be following the maintenance schedule pretty much religiously, so I don't think that will be an issue. I don't see, however, how Kia could come to any conclusion at all about the cause of the wear (although admittedly I don't know anything about the diagnostic capabilities these days) that would give them any insight into my driving habits. But even if they could? I've been up and down that warranty to make sure I understand what I have to do to stay in good standing and it doesn't say anything about shifting habits. About all I (well me and every one else that wants to keep the warranty in good standing) have to worry about is:

1) Make sure I follow the maintenance schedule and keep printed records (I just cracked 200 km on the odo, so I'm a ways away yet - but check).
2) Don't replace any parts with non-Kia parts (even though they'll be doing the replacing of non-wear and tear parts on warranty if req'd).
3) No engine/transmission mods (for me that's going to be no problem, I like her just the way she is).
4) Don't hop curbs (it actually says this - again check).
5) Don't set the car on fire or get it stolen (... here's hoping?).
6) Don't hit the car with severe acts of God (this one is totally outside my control).

I can't find anything in the text that gives Kia an avenue to deny me service due to my driving habits. If you guys know of something though, please let me know because I very much don't want ignorance to cost me a bulldozer full of cash!


I do the same with my 2011 Optima Turbo. 65000 miles and still have original brakes. No transmission issues. Awaiting my Stinger GT2 in Panthera Metal.
 
I do the same with my 2011 Optima Turbo. 65000 miles and still have original brakes. No transmission issues. Awaiting my Stinger GT2 in Panthera Metal.

Congrats on ordering your new car, when does it arrive? And good to hear about the Optima, hopefully the Stinger holds up as well (or better :).
 
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I do the same with my 2011 Optima Turbo. 65000 miles and still have original brakes. No transmission issues. Awaiting my Stinger GT2 in Panthera Metal.

Congrats! Panthera Metal on the GT2? Nice! I thought it was only available on the GT2.
 
Congrats! Panthera Metal on the GT2? Nice! I thought it was only available on the GT2.


It’s probably loaded on the same truck I’m waiting for: the one carrying GT2s w/360° cameras.
 
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Congrats on ordering your new car, when does it arrive? And good to hear about the Optima, hopefully the Stinger holds up as well (or better :).

I haven't ordered one, just told them what I want. Am hoping to test drive it soon. Am now thinking about waiting for G70 to arrive and do a comparison before deciding. I also want to avoid being too eager and paying $ for that.
 
Been reading through this thread and wanted to add something. Based on graphs I have seen, the torque drops off after 4500rpm, this being the pulling power and not horsepower, shifting up within that range seems like a good thing to do. I'm not a race driver so can someone explain why you would want to do that. Holding the gear in corners sound good but not up to redline I would think. On another note, I know BMWs had a feature where it limit engine power until the engine rpms until the engine warms up, not sure if this is on this car as well.

I'm guessing they want the Stinger to behave as a GT car since it was designed as such, later they might do a version with more power and better handling or offer a sportier suspension setup and engine/trans tune to provide better driving feel and appease the sport car enthusiasts.
 
I'm guessing they want the Stinger to behave as a GT car since it was designed as such, later they might do a version with more power and better handling or offer a sportier suspension setup and engine/trans tune to provide better driving feel and appease the sport car enthusiasts.
They could definitely offer a more sport oriented version of the Stinger - the same way BMW has M, Mercedes-Benz has AMG, Cadillac has the V-Series, etcetera. The Stinger is a great performer but it's primary mission is being a Grand Tourer...
 
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Until we see quality dynos in a couple of gears, it will be difficult to tell where the best shift points are. I've not paid any attention to them so far mostly because I feel there are significant airflow restrictions - at least intake and exhaust. I'm interested to see what dynos will look like with a quality intake replacement and exhaust replacement.

And I firmly believe that Kia will have performance versions of the Stinger.
 
Until we see quality dynos in a couple of gears, it will be difficult to tell where the best shift points are. I've not paid any attention to them so far mostly because I feel there are significant airflow restrictions - at least intake and exhaust. I'm interested to see what dynos will look like with a quality intake replacement and exhaust replacement.

And I firmly believe that Kia will have performance versions of the Stinger.
I agree. I think they really worked overtime at keeping the Stinger quiet...
 
Does the GT1 shifter allow the trans to stay in "manual?" That is, is the issue with reversion to "Auto" only on the shift by wire GT2?
 
Does the GT1 shifter allow the trans to stay in "manual?" That is, is the issue with reversion to "Auto" only on the shift by wire GT2?

I can confirm that in Sport mode with the shift by wire transmission, it stays in the gear you select with the paddle shifter for as long as you want.

I believe for the more traditional shifter, there is a dedicated + - gate which would indicate full control of manual mode when physically in there.
 
I can confirm that in Sport mode with the shift by wire transmission, it stays in the gear you select with the paddle shifter for as long as you want.

I believe for the more traditional shifter, there is a dedicated + - gate which would indicate full control of manual mode when physically in there.

You are both correct. GT1 has a gate that keeps it. GT2 keeps it in sport mode.
 
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You are both correct. GT1 has a gate that keeps it. GT2 keeps it in sport mode.

Thanks - follow up question...by "keeps the gear" you mean full control? Meaning RPM will "bounce" on the limiter and not upshift automatically? I am looking at the GT2 so really am only concerned with the shift by wire behavior.

Thanks again
 
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Thanks - follow up question...by "keeps the gear" you mean full control? Meaning RPM will "bounce" on the limiter and not upshift automatically? I am looking at the GT2 so really am only concerned with the shift by wire behavior.

Thanks again

I haven't floored mine yet to red line, but I thought I saw in another thread it will autoshift at redline. Not too surprising to be honest. The only other car that didn't do that was my RC F which is a true high-performance coupe where it bounced on the limiter. What I can confirm is prior to redline, you (driver) have full control in upshifting (or downshifting) when you choose so long as the gear is within the designed range of speed/RPM (i.e. you will not be able to downshift to 2nd gear at 60 mph to prevent over-revving.)
 
I haven't floored mine yet to red line, but I thought I saw in another thread it will autoshift at redline. Not too surprising to be honest. The only other car that didn't do that was my RC F which is a true high-performance coupe where it bounced on the limiter. What I can confirm is prior to redline, you (driver) have full control in upshifting (or downshifting) when you choose so long as the gear is within the designed range of speed/RPM (i.e. you will not be able to downshift to 2nd gear at 60 mph to prevent over-revving.)
Excellent, thanks for the follow up. Funnily enough an RCF is a great comparison. That one WILL upshift from 1-2 at redline but will allow rev bounce from 2-8. I am currently driving an M3 with SMG and that will allow rev bounce from 1-6 all day long. My concern was i read the same in another thread and that truly worried me about the car just "deciding" it was time to go back to "auto." I can live with auto shift at redline and auto shift down to 1/2 when coming to a stop. Other than that, i want the control and to be able to maintain a gear/rpm as desired.

Thanks again!
 
@Mach_Tuck @corradoMR2 the Stinger can hold shifts at redline while using paddle shifters/manual mode if you are in Sport + mode with traction and stability control off. I believe it also stays in manual mode indefinitely after you paddle shift while you're in Sport +.
 
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