Staggered setup and AWD

[Marc Collins]

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No trouble clearing anything you'd want to go over normally. The drop is 1.4 in front, 1.2 rear. Really just looks sorted, not slammed. Do watch out for curbs in front, however.

My neighbour has the same white with the same Eibachs. Looks the same--noticeably lower, but just shy of "slammed" as @Shrikecorp says.

 

[MerlintheMad]

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No trouble clearing anything you'd want to go over normally. The drop is 1.4 in front, 1.2 rear. Really just looks sorted, not slammed. Do watch out for curbs in front, however.

And watch out for those center ridges/medians that either were never painted in yellow or it has worn off! If my car had been even one inch lower than stock, it would have died.

 

[Zotto]

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No trouble clearing anything you'd want to go over normally. The drop is 1.4 in front, 1.2 rear. Really just looks sorted, not slammed. Do watch out for curbs in front,
however.

I do agree. That's why I make a habit of backing into curbed parking stalls

 

[Kazz]

Not sure if we've spoken before. But I'm doing 19X9.5 with 255/35 on my AWD GT. Along with eibach springs and sways, it's amazing.

Do you have any pictures of your setup? Do you have any idea how much each wheel weighs, as well? Would love to see this setup in person!

 

[Andimal]

Do you have any pictures of your setup? Do you have any idea how much each wheel weighs, as well? Would love to see this setup in person!

Aftermarket Wheels Post #571 Don't know the weights off hand. They are ARK 270's - 19x9.5. Nick at Khartunerz might be able to give you a weight.

 

[Skraight]

Recently my car with this setup has started "lurching" forward when I come to a stop, like the AWD system is freaking out? You come to a full stop and the car willrotate the wheels a bit forward like it chirps them. Also last night in the rain it kept feeling like it was doing it when going straight. Maybe a differential problem, but has gone away putting the stock wheels back on.

Set up is 12 lbs heavier in the rear after weighing them today which I'm curious if all that the extra weight is the issue.

19x8.5/245 tire up front, 2.5 lbs heavier than stock
19x10/285 tires out back, 12.5 lbs heavier than stock

 

[Zotto]

Are you lowered?

 

[Skraight]

Yes , eibach springs.

 

[MerlintheMad]

Set up is 12 lbs heavier in the rear after weighing them today which I'm curious if all that the extra weight is the issue.

19x8.5/245 tire up front, 2.5 lbs heavier than stock
19x10/285 tires out back, 12.5 lbs heavier than stock

Are you serious?! I thought that the OE GT rims are already heavy. Somebody on here referred to them as "boat anchors". How could the aftermarket be heavier?

But I agree: heavier could mess with the electronic settings/programming. Lighter wouldn't cause an issue. But rolling weight exceeding what the AWD is designed to interface with could create issues like you describe. And the Kia manual does warn to only use wheels and tires that are the same as the OEM.

 

[Skraight]

Yeah, every other set of Japanese built wheels I’ve bought have been lightweight. That’s why I was so surprised when I got these from WORK wheels and they were that heavy. Even though they are forged multi-piece wheels, they are still old technology(this set was built in early 2000’s).

 

[MerlintheMad]

Yeah, every other set of Japanese built wheels I’ve bought have been lightweight. That’s why I was so surprised when I got these from WORK wheels and they were that heavy. Even though they are forged multi-piece wheels, they are still old technology(this set was built in early 2000’s).

What's the story behind rims so "old"? I didn't know that in such a short time, forged got so much weight reduction.

 

[Zotto]

Does the larger sized tire(rubber) make the difference in weight?

Are you with in the 1% rule for AWD when you sized up? If I remember the stock setup is around 26.1 diameter.

If your to far out from the stock diameters the sensors can cause issues, so I have heard and that would require a calibration.

 

[Skraight]

Does the larger sized tire(rubber) make the difference in weight?

Are you with in the 1% rule for AWD when you sized up? If I remember the stock setup is around 26.1 diameter.

If your to far out from the stock diameters the sensors can cause issues, so I have heard and that would require a calibration.

My rear tire is 2.3% larger than the stock 225/45/18.

What's the story behind rims so "old"? I didn't know that in such a short time, forged got so much weight reduction.

I'm assuming just the materials and process all together. I highly doubt these are aluminum like the 18x9 set I bought last year that weighed 18 lbs.

 

[MerlintheMad]

My rear tire is 2.3% larger than the stock 225/45/18.

Too much! I'd say there is your problem, not the extra weight.

 

[Skraight]

Too much! I'd say there is your problem, not the extra weight.

There were a few people in this thread running 245/255-35-20 which is even more than me and they don't seem to have issues.

 

[MerlintheMad]

There were a few people in this thread running 245/255-35-20 which is even more than me and they don't seem to have issues.

Give it time, their cars will probably "rebel" too. And warranty will be void if issues can be traced to using OD that is not within a skosh of OEM.

 

[Shrikecorp]

The AWD square 18" rims come with A/S tires and has a limited top speed of 130 mph. The AWD staggered 19" rims are 8.5" in the front and 9" in the rear; come with Michelin Pilot Sport tires, and the speed limiter is the vaunted 167 mph. Other than that difference, I don't think that square vs staggered produces any difference other than visual subtleties.

Point of clarification...the stock 19" wheels are 8 and 8.5, not 8.5 and 9. Per Kia (and other sources). Which is why I'm more or less stuck with 255s until I spend pots of cash to change wheels. Not much in the way of wider options that will satisfy the requirement to stay close to 26" total diameter without a rim swap.

 

[Marc Collins]

Point of clarification...the stock 19" wheels are 8 and 8.5, not 8.5 and 9. Per Kia (and other sources). Which is why I'm more or less stuck with 255s until I spend pots of cash to change wheels. Not much in the way of wider options that will satisfy the requirement to stay close to 26" total diameter without a rim swap.

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Sad, but true. There are no viable options to upsize tire width on the stock wheels.

 

[MerlintheMad]

wheels are 8 and 8.5, not 8.5 and 9

Thanks for catching that. I mix up the two rim sets: the TSW "Watkins" I have on right now are 8.5 in front and 9.5 in the rear.

 

[Shrikecorp]

Thanks for catching that. I mix up the two rim sets: the TSW "Watkins" I have on right now are 8.5 in front and 9.5 in the rear.

I'd rather have the ones you've got