Where was the alarm?

[Dewfall]

Last night the rear passenger side window of my 2022 stinger was smashed in by thieves. The alarm did not sound and there was no alert in my Kia Access app. Can anyone answer why the alarm did not start or failed??

 

[D.J.]

Last night the rear passenger side window of my 2022 stinger was smashed in by thieves. The alarm did not sound and there was no alert in my Kia Access app. Can anyone answer why the alarm did not start or failed??

Did they open the door?

If they just smashed a window, the OEM alarm does not know about it.

 

[Dewfall]

Did they open the door?

If they just smashed a window, the OEM alarm does not know about it.

Only broke the window. That sucks about the alarm. What good is it really then? Any suggestions for an upgrade?

 

[D.J.]

Only broke the window. That sucks about the alarm. What good is it really then? Any suggestions for an upgrade?

Just about any aftermarket alarm should do the trick....

More features come with more $$$, and can usually be added on.

Do you want 2 want communication?
Integrated remote start, etc etc etc....

So many potential options.

 

[D.J.]

Any suggestions for an upgrade?

Suggestion

PRO T13 2-Way Remote Start & Security System

(RF-P2WT13-SF) 3-mile max range, USB rechargeable, IPX-7 waterproof Compustar remote kit. Includes one 2-way LCD and one 2-way LED remote.

www.compustar.com

With
Advanced security sensors
Dual-stage shock sensors
Tilt/towing sensor
Glass-break sensor
Door/hood/trunk monitoring

 

[Dewfall]

Suggestion

With
Advanced security sensors
Dual-stage shock sensors
Tilt/towing sensor
Glass-break sensor
Door/hood/trunk monitoring

Looks like only available in Canada. I live in Michigan, USA. Maybe the Pro T12.

 

[D.J.]

Looks like only available in Canada. I live in Michigan, USA. Maybe the Pro T12.

It's certainly available in the USA

PRO T13 with LTE | Compustar.com

The all-new PRO T13 is the industry’s most advanced remote start and security system! This kit also includes the powerful Drone X1 LTE module and a free 30-Day trial of DroneMobi

www.compustar.com

 

[Dewfall]

Suggestion


With
Advanced security sensors
Dual-stage shock sensors
Tilt/towing sensor
Glass-break sensor
Door/hood/trunk monitoring

Okay, I was looking at the RF-P2WT13-SF, which is Canada only. The USA model is RFX-P2WT13-SF.

Does it plug into OBDII port? I have a JB4 plugged there. Do you have this security system installed?

I'd like to know more about what factory systems it replaces or overrides and how well it works with them. Are there videos or documents that explain what I'd be getting myself into with the installation?

 

[D.J.]

Okay, I was looking at the RF-P2WT13-SF, which is Canada only. The USA model is RFX-P2WT13-SF.

Does it plug into OBDII port? I have a JB4 plugged there. Do you have this security system installed?

I'd like to know more about what factory systems it replaces or overrides and how well it works with them. Are there videos or documents that explain what I'd be getting myself into with the installation?

I had the much older compustar 2wFM900 (top of line at the time) on my previous car.

No it certainly does not plug into the OBD2 port. It is not in any way plug and play.

It's a very good also system, plus remote starter, possibly the best.

Once my free 5 years of Kia connect is expired, this would be the system of choice for my for my remote starter/alarm.

 

[Dewfall]

I had the much older compustar 2wFM900 (top of line at the time) on my previous car.

No it certainly does not plug into the OBD2 port. It is not in any way plug and play.

It's a very good also system, plus remote starter, possibly the best.

Once my free 5 years of Kia connect is expired, this would be the system of choice for my for my remote starter/alarm.

So are you in the same situation, where if your rear door windows are smashed, no alarm?
I guess I need to talk to Compustar to get the information I need.

Like you, I was relying on Kia's own security system and network, but then this happened.

 

[rpoffen]

Last night the rear passenger side window of my 2022 stinger was smashed in by thieves. The alarm did not sound and there was no alert in my Kia Access app. Can anyone answer why the alarm did not start or failed??

Was anything taken? Best deterrence is to keep everything out of sight, so there appears to be nothing reachable via the window "smash and grab" only, if they wanted to look around more in the car, they would probably have to open the door.

 

[stoopid]

Was anything taken? Best deterrence is to keep everything out of sight, so there appears to be nothing reachable via the window "smash and grab" only, if they wanted to look around more in the car, they would probably have to open the door.

We have the same issues here in and around Vegas, especially at the various outdoors trailheads. This is 100% key to preventing breakins -- have nothing valuable or potentially valuable* in sight.

* - My GF's CX-5 got broken into a few months back, they were after the trash bag she keeps for the car which is a 'sack' with a zipper and pigtail she uses to hang it from the shifter. In hindsight, she realized it looked a bit like a money bag. They were disappointed.

I have a radar detector and dashcam installed and never put away (unless parking for days on a public street, then I'd consider removing them). Neither are good brands, just adequate devices in the hopes they don't look sophisticated enough to tempt a thief. The issue with combating thieves is that none of them are smart/thinking clearly, else they wouldn't choose to be stealing/in their desperate position in life. So trying to outthink random and stupid can be a needless source of stress. The only way to prevent 100% of breakins is to garage the car at home and never park it anywhere when it's not garaged. Otherwise, there's always some percent of chance.

 

[D.J.]

So are you in the same situation, where if your rear door windows are smashed, no alarm?

Correct.
All stingers with OEM alarms.

The factory alarm sounds if the door is opened while armed.


I am actually unsure what happens if:

1. Arm alarm
2. Window gets smashed
3. Thief reaches in and unlocks door using the unlock switch
4. Does unlocking from the inside disarm the alarm???

Someone should test.

 

[G-321461]

Was anything taken? Best deterrence is to keep everything out of sight, so there appears to be nothing reachable via the window "smash and grab" only, if they wanted to look around more in the car, they would probably have to open the door.

I plan to keep everything out of sight now, that’s for sure.

 

[Dewfall]

Was anything taken? Best deterrence is to keep everything out of sight, so there appears to be nothing reachable via the window "smash and grab" only, if they wanted to look around more in the car, they would probably have to open the door.

I did have a gym bag on the rear passenger seat, but it only had some gym clothes, a brush, rags, etc. and a tire inflator that cost about $60 new, so not that valuable. Funny thing is, I found the bag laying upside down in the car port opposite of mine, and apparently nothing missing. Maybe they were spotted, dropped it and bolted.

Anyway, the only things that will be visible inside from now on are the WeatherTech floor mats, interior sunshield cover and a cheap umbrella. Hopefully those are not worth breaking in to steal.

I got the window replaced for $409, but I still have to pay $250 of it as the deductible, insurance will cover the rest. Big help insurance after what I am paying in premiums. I am also installing a surveillance camera (recommended from Nelly's Security) that will point at the car.

Still there is nothing that will stop slime bags who want to go after my car again. But if it happens, I will move to an apartment where I'll have an enclosed garage to park in.

Stupid question, why won't people keep their greasy paws off things that don't belong to them?

 

[stoopid]

Stupid question, why won't people keep their greasy paws off things that don't belong to them?

It's tough to catch them even with video and there's not a lot of value in the items stolen, which leads to many incidents not even getting reported. WE all end up paying for it in higher insurance rates when we get the windows replaced under glass coverage (or out of pocket). The criminal in petty crime rarely pays. It's been like this for a while, social media / internet have only made the problem easier to track and shines a bit of a spotlight on it where none was before. This doesn't change the reality of them getting caught any easier though.

 

[AusStinger]

I wonder how these alarms go for voltage draw.... My dash cam alone often gives me the low start battery message.

 

[ScottM]

The only way to prevent 100% of breakins is to garage the car at home and never park it anywhere when it's not garaged. Otherwise, there's always some percent of chance.

That and a 24/7 security guard. It's as you and everyone is stating, it's typically someone or someone's who are relatively desperate or know what they are doing. It's hard to stop either. Having said that, if you have blackout tint...maybe that helps? But then again, the cops. I guess the only other idea would be to park next to a car that appears to have a bunch of "junk" laying in open site....hopefully they'll go for that one!

 

[Dewfall]

It's tough to catch them even with video and there's not a lot of value in the items stolen, which leads to many incidents not even getting reported. WE all end up paying for it in higher insurance rates when we get the windows replaced under glass coverage (or out of pocket). The criminal in petty crime rarely pays. It's been like this for a while, social media / internet have only made the problem easier to track and shines a bit of a spotlight on it where none was before. This doesn't change the reality of them getting caught any easier though.

Almost asks the question of why not join in on theft to make up for losses due to theft, since it seems unlikely anyone will ever be caught, as long as the laws favor criminals. Maybe I'll end up stealing from a criminal, HA! The laws are archaic, from a time when honor still existed. Honor was finally squashed out of existence in the middle of 2008. We lawful citizens are stuck between being victims of criminals who will never be made accountable, and police and DAs who can't stop crime, but will arrest and prosecute a lawful citizen for defending themselves or their hard earned property. Laws MUST change to make it legal to defend property with deadly force. That is the only way to reduce crime, when the criminals fear for their own safety.

 

[Dewfall]

That and a 24/7 security guard. It's as you and everyone is stating, it's typically someone or someone's who are relatively desperate or know what they are doing. It's hard to stop either. Having said that, if you have blackout tint...maybe that helps? But then again, the cops. I guess the only other idea would be to park next to a car that appears to have a bunch of "junk" laying in open site....hopefully they'll go for that one!

In the state where I live tinting is pretty much illegal, so the laws are hurtful against lawful citizens in that respect. I agree about making a car seem a little too risky for criminals to attack, so they slug and slime their way over to the something easier. But I can't help but feel bad for the person who's car is targeted after passing mine. Maybe the solution is to make one's car look like a garbage dump inside LOL. I've seen cars like that, and who the hell would want anything inside? Ya know, if someone desperately needed a few bucks (not for drugs) and asked me, and I knew it was that or they would attack my car, I've give them some money. Sure as hell beats dealing with insurance ba$tard$ and getting it fixed. There are solutions, but I think government always makes a mess of it. When a person commits a crime, their rights should be forfeit. Sorry for the political rant.