Two different brake pads? Different bedding processes?

[JayTX]

Hey guys,

I am now starting to experience the shuddering in my front brakes due to the brake pads so I decided to purchase new brakes all around and have the dealer turn the rotors and install the new brake pads.
I bought the Stop Tech Street Performance for the front and the EBC Green Stuff for the rear.
The EBC Green Stuff came with bedding instructions and I found the bedding in process for the stop techs online. The EBC Green stuff asks me to drive gently for approx 200 miles then do the 60 to 20mph braking 5 times. The stop tech asks to 60mph to 10mph for 10 times for 2 sets. Allowing to cool in-between each set.

My question is how do I go about bedding in the brakes efficiently if the dealer installs the new pads in one go?

 

[oddball]

Both of those approaches are a bit odd. There's no specific number of braking passes that are required. 20 total passes would be A LOT. I think I tend to average about 10?

You can bed - or not bed! - right after install. Modern pads are scorched so they'll bed themselves eventually with casual driving. You *need* to do a bedding procedure if you drive hard. But, for example, I never bed new pads on my wife's cars - no point. No service department or manufacturer ever beds brakes either, yet cars seem to stop just fine. It's a Good Idea, not a requirement.

The purpose is to get them hot enough to get the binder to soften, then do a soft brake, then keep moving while they cool.

You get them hot by doing repeated stops. It's generally a good idea to do this somewhat gradually - a few gradual 40 to 10 stops, then 50 to 10, then hard 50 to 10 stops, etc. Just increase the intensity of the braking. You do need to get pretty hard on the brakes to get them hot enough - this isn't sunday cruising. You'll know when you're done because the brakes will start to stink and the brake pedal will get soft.
At this point you have very limited braking. You also need to make sure to NOT STOP. Stopping will cause a big chunk of pad material to be deposited on the rotor which will never come off.

Anyway, once it's good and hot, do one gradual slow down, then immediately get on a highway and drive for ~15 minutes. This lets everything cool back down.

Done.

Note that really this beds the fronts. The rears may, or may not, get hot enough. But it really doesn't matter. The rear does so little braking compared to the front that as long as they're not making noise and have pad material you're doing fine.

I have a nice stretch of road with a new corporate headquarters that is still opening, so there's almost no traffic on that 1 mile road, and only three side roads go into it. One of those side roads goes straight to a highway access road. So I circle around-and-around on that road doing the braking and once done, just swing off to the side and get on the highway.

 

[HDTurbo]

I bedded StopTechs on my spec b years ago, and thought 20 was excessive. I wasn't even sure I did the full 1st set of 10!
Guess what? Deposits occured! Guess what I did? Re-bedded them per instructions...maybe a few more times! All good in the long run, esp. with not stopping for extended periods after heavy braking without letting the system cool while rolling...

 

[Helo58]

I bought the Stop Tech Street Performance for the front...

I purchased the Stop Tech Streets and had a similar problem as the OEM pads. They did not solve my problem after properly bedding them. Experiences vary though. Good luck with getting the problem sorted. If the stoptechs don't work for you, there is no shortage of recommendations on here for other pads that will work for you.

 

[JayTX]

I purchased the Stop Tech Streets and had a similar problem as the OEM pads. They did not solve my problem after properly bedding them. Experiences vary though. Good luck with getting the problem sorted. If the stoptechs don't work for you, there is no shortage of recommendations on here for other pads that will work for you.

Ahh wow, hate to see that happen. So far I've seen mostly positive reviews for the Stop Tech Streets so hopefully it fixes the issue. What front pads are you running now?

 

[Helo58]

Ahh wow, hate to see that happen. So far I've seen mostly positive reviews for the Stop Tech Streets so hopefully it fixes the issue. What front pads are you running now?

Kia repurchased my car through the Lemon Law Provision of my state's consumer protection laws (brakes and LSD), so no Stinger now. Stinks because there are so few choices in the segment with the capability/price sweet spot. I enjoyed the car and wish that mine wasn't a lemon. Vowed to never get another Kia after everything that went down, but have struggled to find a replacement for it that isn't a compromise. If one were to be considering a new Stinger there are many 2020s that they are dealing on now as the 21s arrive. Good luck with your brakes!