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When going over bumps in the road, are you regularly hearing a thud from the suspension. Not metal to metal just a noise from the suspension.

I used to hear this noise when I had VW/AUDI and the strut bearings were going bad.

GT2 AWD 2,500 miles
 
Front, rear, left side, right side? I only hear an occasional thud from the hatch area, and pretty sure it is just stuff on the floor giving a little hop and a drop when I go over bumps a bit too fast.
 
all 4 corners like the preload on a coil over is loose. I'm still on stock suspension.
 
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Go for a ride with a service boss. Then they'll know. I bet it's something to do with the electronically controlled suspension. Probably something in the programming needs a "reflash" or whatever it's called. In other words: I don't see how it could be hardware related, since all four corners are doing it on a brand new car.
 
Mine does this. I've chalked it up to 2.2 tons and low profile tires.
 
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Mine does this. I've chalked it up to 2.2 tons and low profile tires.

I can understand that. That is the only noise in the car, no other rattles.
 
When going over bumps in the road, are you regularly hearing a thud from the suspension. Not metal to metal just a noise from the suspension.

I used to hear this noise when I had VW/AUDI and the strut bearings were going bad.

GT2 AWD 2,500 miles

Every GT2 RWD I test drive does this (I’ve never driven the other models).
You can clearly *hear* the front and rear suspensions working as they go over bumps in these cars. In the front there is a subtle bumping (not exactly a clunk/thunk/thud, but definitely audible) sound as you go over pavement irregularities. In the rear, there is a bit of resonance in the cabin/body, best described as boom, as the wheels go over irregularities.

Most find it unobjectionable or not noticeable. Maybe some ears are more sensitive to it than others.
I think the sound is coming from rather stiff front and rear strut mounts.

My F10 535i did the same thing, but just at the rear. After driving multiple similar 535i, I found that most rode without excess suspension noise, but all of the ones with the Adaptive Electronic Suspension had the extra sound.
A little checking revealed that Adaptive and regular suspension 535i each received their own unique strut mounts.
One set for the Adaptive Suspension and another set of mounts for the regular suspensions.
I swapped my Adaptive mounts for those of the regular suspension and the extra sounds went away.

Which brings me to the Stinger...
Again, the Regular and Adaptive Suspension have different mounts.
I also note that the Stinger Electronic Suspension System seems to use the same supplier/design as the BMW system. The only notable difference being that the Stinger lacks the ability to adjust compression damping, while the Bimmers could adjust compression and rebound at each shock. Moving on... It seems that the adjustable suspension seems to insinuate the use of stiffer mounts than the base suspension for some reason. Stiffer mounts do usually increase noise/vibration/harshness.

I still need to make time to drive a regular suspension Stinger and a G70 with and without ECS too.
After I do, I’ll be able to tell you if the mounts are the culprit responsible for some of the increased road/suspension noise that the GT2 has. But that’s assuming the passive suspension doesn’t make the same noise.

There’s another issue too... Have you ever noticed how vocal the Stinger GT exhaust is on the inside, while being quite subdued on the outside? Lots of people think that sound they hear from the rear is simulated/electronic... In my experience, the fake sound is more intake than exhaust, and seems focused on the front speakers. That exhaust sound from the rear is real. And it is able to come through loud and clear because of a severe lack of sound insulation/deadening mAterials in the trunk. Too add insult to injury, we have a hatch with no separated trunk, so the sounds from back there come through even clearer still. That’s good when it comes to exhaust sound, but horrible as pertains to road noise and NVH isolation. I also find the trunk floor metal to be kinda thin too.

I plan to add some dynomat back there and will report back if it’s worth it.
 
Mine does this. I've chalked it up to 2.2 tons and low profile tires.
Mine to on my new 2020 GT1.
Actually, my 16 Optima SX-L was pretty vocal over some rougher terrain.
 
I plan to add some dynomat back there and will report back if it’s worth it.

I used the Home Depot cheapie version of dynamat, and yes it made a difference. Roofing repair tape. Just remember you don’t have to cover every square inch, just a majority of it.
 
@Ty Davis; I may try your theory! I installed coil overs, using oem strut mounts front and rear, and the sound you described
continue specially in the back. The important thing is the shaft diameter in the mount on the 2.0 stinger's shocks, if they are the same as the gt with magnetic suspension, we can try usung them. It's a good test...I don't thing those rear mounts are expensive.....
 
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@Ty Davis; I found they are the same strut maount for electronic and regular shocks.....
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I see you have HSD coilovers...
My 1st set of coils on the Stinger were HSD's too.
The thud definitely decreased for me when I installed them. There was no longer the reverberating/bassy thunk or thump from the rear suspension when a tire would go over a seam/crack/gap in the pavement whilst turning and accelerating from low speeds at the same time. There was still a bit of sound to it with the HSD's, but just normal now and not intrusive.

I think I had my coils (Both front and rear) set at 1 for the shock breakin. Higher settings may cause more noise.
I don't know more because i didn't keep them long as mine were defective. The fronts caused loud road noise right away. Sounded like a cross between bad wheel bearings and a bowling ball rolling down the alley floor as the car neared cruising speeds.
Then the HSD's started to get softer and softer as the miles added up. Initially the car was rock steady, but within 2 weeks the shocks were not well controlled and were just as bouncy as stock. Turning the damping up would help for a few miles, then it would get bouncy again. With the shocks malfunctioning, the car was severely unbalanced during cornering and was prone to spin out, especially in the rain.
Did yours get softer at all during the breakin? Do you get any bounce front or rear?

I went to KW V3 and they too ended up faulty. But even on those KW's the rear thunk was reduced to a none issue.
I've noticed that too much spring or shock stiffness, or high rear tire pressure makes the thunk worse.

I researched those rear stock mounts like you did. Yup they are the same between all Stinger and G70 models.
Even the old K900's use them. I test drove a G70 and the thunk was absent from that car.

I really think the problem is in the Stingers shock/spring tuning. Even playing with my MANDO ECS module settings can make the thunk sound go away to the point it is almost negligible.


@Ty Davis; I found they are the same strut maount for electronic and regular shocks.....
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The noises the Stinger makes I associate with being premium harmonics. These are in the form of lower pitch thuds etc which I generally don't mind.
However my Stinger is DEC 2018 build & it's almost too quiet. But then again, I'm a very gentle driver 99% of the time.
 
The noises the Stinger makes I associate with being premium harmonics. These are in the form of lower pitch thuds etc which I generally don't mind.
However my Stinger is DEC 2018 build & it's almost too quiet. But then again, I'm a very gentle driver 99% of the time.

I have many compliments for my Stinger.
However, too quiet is not one of them. That being said, on good (better than average) surfaces, the Stinger can ge quite tranquil.
I find that the road noise is more related to road quality, than driving style. My last few cars were BMW's, so I may be a bit spoiled by those cars excellent isolation from wind-road-tire-chassis noise though.
 
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I have many compliments for my Stinger.
However, too quiet is not one of them. That being said, on good (better than average) surfaces, the Stinger can ge quite tranquil.
I find that the road noise is more related to road quality, than driving style. My last few cars were BMW's, so I may be a bit spoiled by those cars excellent isolation from wind-road-tire-chassis noise though.
I think the challenge with the Stinger is because the engine/drivetrain is super quiet it tends to amplify road/wind/tyre noise.
Vehicles with noisy drivetrains will offset those noises. Which works at Stingers disadvantage because typically road/tyre noise is more noticeable than background drivetrain noise that tends to cancel out other noises.
 
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I think the challenge with the Stinger is because the engine/drivetrain is super quiet it tends to amplify road/wind/tyre noise.
Vehicles with noisy drivetrains will offset those noises. Which works at Stingers disadvantage because typically road/tyre noise is more noticeable than background drivetrain noise that tends to cancel out other noises.
Problem solved get an aftermarket exhaust, you'll get noise. Win/win it will mask wind and air noises,tyres, nagging wifes, rattles and squeaks .
 
I find wind noise to be pretty low in the stinger, but I used to drive a rolling brick (Dodge ram).

Road noise is high though. I blame low profile tires and poor NVH treatment. My truck has full MLV treatment and has significantly less road noise)
 
Road noise is high though. I blame low profile tires and poor NVH (Noise, Vibration, and Harshness) (Noise, Vibration, and Harshness) treatment. My truck has full MLV treatment and has significantly less road noise)
Depends on the road, in my experience. Normally the road noise is down there; and then, I turn up the volume of the Harman Kardon Surround Sound. :D No road noise can compete with that (well, I hasten to make the exception of rough concrete highways at speed: then you must, absolutely, resort of heavy bass, LOUD techno in order to drown that out!:P).
 
Problem solved get an aftermarket exhaust, you'll get noise. Win/win it will mask wind and air noises,tyres, nagging wifes, rattles and squeaks .
The silence & smoothness of the of the stock system suits the personality of the Stinger.
 
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