Staggered setup and AWD

[Rev_Night]

I am currently running a staggered setup on my 350z (265/285), but that car is RWD. I am planning on getting a Stinger GT AWD, and I find myself wondering if there is any benefit, or detriment of running a staggered setup. I am not planning on tracking or lowering my car, but I would like an aggressive look. I will be running All-Seasons Continental DSW06

tl dr: Should AWD be square, staggered, or doesn't matter?

thanks all

 

[GTA Jay]

Today I put on 20x8.5 +26 with Conti DWS06 255/35/20. Im not lowering the car as it’s a year round daily driver and work vehicle. This setup fills the wheel well really nicely and the +26 sits nice and aggressive. I’m driving a GT Limited AWD

 

[Rev_Night]

255s on all 4 is awesome. 20s is a bit too rich for my blood though, I'm fine with just the lighter 18s. Can I still do that in this size? Maybe even 265x4?

 

[GTA Jay]

I’m not sure if 265 would work up front. I think you would have to got to 9” rim, and the right offset will be hugely important. I’m no expert, so I would consult one before shelling out the cash.

 

[Rev_Night]

Oh I assure you I'm asking all the experts before I pay $2k

 

[MerlintheMad]

Should AWD be square, staggered, or doesn't matter?

The AWD square 18" rims come with A/S tires and has a limited top speed of 130 mph. The AWD staggered 19" rims are 8.5" in the front and 9" in the rear; come with Michelin Pilot Sport tires, and the speed limiter is the vaunted 167 mph. Other than that difference, I don't think that square vs staggered produces any difference other than visual subtleties.

 

[Andimal]

These are 19x9.5+25 Ark 270's on my AWD. Square set up on 255/35's. When I put them on, I also had the the full Eibach pro-kit installed... it's a night and day difference from the staggered set up, but I'm sure that has more to do with the Eibach kit. Once difference I've noticed is that it jumps, or lifts, when I lay into from a stop. But I'm also running JB4 on MAP2, mid-pipes, cat-back, and CAI's. Prob wouldn't be as dramatic stock.

 

[SteveCo]

Should AWD be square, staggered, or doesn't matter?

The factory AWDs with 19s are staggered, and I believe that to be a handling vs. a design choice. If handling is more important to you than convenience, go staggered. If you won't be running the car at the limits, then it's not likely to make a noticeable difference.

 

[M'Kehyah]

For AWD the greatest consideration is total tire height.
If there is a difference in tire height (due to staggered sizes/not quite equal) - it will induce stress on the center differential.

Different tire widths is no problem.

 

[JDM_Man]

By Jumping do you mean it bunny hops on acceleration or the front tires are lifting off the ground? Are you AWD or RWD??

These are 19x9.5+25 Ark 270's on my AWD. Square set up on 255/35's. When I put them on, I also had the the full Eibach pro-kit installed... it's a night and day difference from the staggered set up, but I'm sure that has more to do with the Eibach kit. Once difference I've noticed is that it jumps, or lifts, when I lay into from a stop. But I'm also running JB4 on MAP2, mid-pipes, cat-back, and CAI's. Prob wouldn't be as dramatic stock.

 

[Andimal]

By Jumping do you mean it bunny hops on acceleration or the front tires are lifting off the ground? Are you AWD or RWD??

I’m AWD. I guess “bunny hop” would be the proper description. The whole thing lifts. It’s pretty cool haha.

 

[Kazz]

I’m AWD. I guess “bunny hop” would be the proper description. The whole thing lifts. It’s pretty cool haha.

More rubber on the ground and stiffer suspension.

 

[Marc Collins]

The AWD square 18" rims come with A/S tires and has a limited top speed of 130 mph. The AWD staggered 19" rims are 8.5" in the front and 9" in the rear; come with Michelin Pilot Sport tires, and the speed limiter is the vaunted 167 mph. Other than that difference, I don't think that square vs staggered produces any difference other than visual subtleties.

Staggered set-up, when deployed on a car, affects handling. There is higher relative grip at the rear than there otherwise would be. It's always on purpose and in the case of the Stinger makes a noticeable difference. I would never reduce the relative proportion of grip at the rear on my Stinger, even if moving to an overall higher grip/wider tire set as in the case of @GTA Jay above.

 

[JDM_Man]

Guys, having a staggered set up produces MORE under steering. People have noted going square they get more over steer, designers will usually do this with a car that has considerable power so less experienced drivers don't lose control.

As mentioned previously in an AWD set up what is most important is the overall circumference being with in 1-2% of each other as it causes harm to the drive train if they are off more then that..

 

[Marc Collins]

Guys, having a staggered set up produces MORE under steering. People have noted going square they get more over steer, designers will usually do this with a car that has considerable power so less experienced drivers don't lose control.

As mentioned previously in an AWD set up what is most important is the overall circumference being with in 1-2% of each other as it causes harm to the drive train if they are off more then that..

Right, but with the "wobbly" rear end that has been discussed to death, I do not want less (relative) grip at the rear than is already there. On most cars, agree completely.

 

[Kazz]

I'm wondering how much the OEM endlinks, which have been criticized heavily, exacerbate the problems.

 

[Capital AL]

Hello, I am new to this forum and considering purchasing a Stinger GT. I have one question on the tire sizes. When looking on Kia's website it shows that RWD GT cars will come with 225/40R19 in front and 255/35R19 in rear. The AWD GT cars come with 225/45/R18 all around. AWD is important because of where I live there is a ton of snow, but I would like to get the 19 inch wheels with the staggered tire sizes that are wider in the rear. Is this possible? Thanks in advance for your help.

 

[westcoastGT]

Hello, I am new to this forum and considering purchasing a Stinger GT. I have one question on the tire sizes. When looking on Kia's website it shows that RWD GT cars will come with 225/40R19 in front and 255/35R19 in rear. The AWD GT cars come with 225/45/R18 all around. AWD is important because of where I live there is a ton of snow, but I would like to get the 19 inch wheels with the staggered tire sizes that are wider in the rear. Is this possible? Thanks in advance for your help.

I Canada , we can only get AWD and they are on staggered 19s

 

[Kazz]

Hello, I am new to this forum and considering purchasing a Stinger GT. I have one question on the tire sizes. When looking on Kia's website it shows that RWD GT cars will come with 225/40R19 in front and 255/35R19 in rear. The AWD GT cars come with 225/45/R18 all around. AWD is important because of where I live there is a ton of snow, but I would like to get the 19 inch wheels with the staggered tire sizes that are wider in the rear. Is this possible? Thanks in advance for your help.

It seems to depend on what each dealer is having delivered. Check your nearest local dealers' website? When the car came out, Canada was receiving 19" wheels with summer tires and here in Illinois we were getting 18" All Seasons. So the distribution is a bit odd.

For what it's worth, the 18" should be perfect for whatever snow tires you eventually put on the wheels. The all-seasons have worked well for two winters with plenty of snow, here. But I'll be replacing them with snow tires when these are worn. And I'll be getting a new set of wheels and tires for summer at that time, as well.

 

[Capital AL]

It seems to depend on what each dealer is having delivered. Check your nearest local dealers' website? When the car came out, Canada was receiving 19" wheels with summer tires and here in Illinois we were getting 18" All Seasons. So the distribution is a bit odd.

For what it's worth, the 18" should be perfect for whatever snow tires you eventually put on the wheels. The all-seasons have worked well for two winters with plenty of snow, here. But I'll be replacing them with snow tires when these are worn. And I'll be getting a new set of wheels and tires for summer at that time, as well.

I am in Illinois as well, the reason I want to 19's is because I like the look of the wider rear tires, I saw several stingers with the 18's that have 225 width tries in the rear and it does not look right, way to narrow on a car like this, the 255's in the rear look way better.