3.3TT Lowering Springs are bad for stock shocks?

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Hey everyone I have a 2022 Kia Stinger and I’m thinking about possibly getting some lowering springs put in, but not 100% in on it yet. I have a couple questions I’m hoping some of you who have had the car longer can help out with.

1. I have heard some horror stories that lowering springs will affect the stock shocks of the car and cause some serious damage. Wondering if there is any truth to that?
2. I’m looking to close the wheel gap a bit and give a little more of a aggressive stance, but do not want to make my ride quality suffer or worry about if a slope is to steep,
3. With that in mind what lowering springs would work best and when getting them installed so I need to have the care realigned?

any input is greatly appreciated
 
There is no free lunch. Lowering springs increase the effective spring rate to prevent bottoming, that means more stress on the shocks and you are effectively under-damped now. The harder you push the car, the more problems you'll generally have. You will have a stiffer and more bouncy ride. Lots of people say "they are fine" or "it's not bad", but again, nothing is free. If you want to retain a controlled ride, especially at the limits, you need higher damping rates. I was kind of lucky with BMW where my shocks were electronic and I could simply get a "shock flash" that increased the damping rates to match the stiffer springs. The stiffer damping rate also helped a lot with the stiffer sways, to dampen the side-to-side action when one side of the car would hit a bump. While still not ideal like actually changing shocks, it was a lot better than just doing springs by themselves.

Sometimes the lowering spring isn't actually much, if any, stiffer, relying on a stiffer bump-stop, but this means the suspension is moving faster into the deep travel on something like a pot-hole, having not been slowed by the combination of the spring and damper, putting more stress on everything.

Also, sometimes lowering springs are a one-size-fits-all. The company claims to make "lowering springs" for multiple models/trims of the same car, but you go and check the part numbers and they are all the same part no. That is bad because cars weigh different amounts. There were a lot of companies offering lowering-springs for my BMW, but only one of the two that actually analyzed each car configuration/trim and adjusted the spring rates for each weight made one for my car and I had to import them from Europe. Differences of a few hundred pounds in car weight are significant. This is usually due to different engines and drive configurations.

This doesn't mean you'll just die instantly if you do a drop, but there will be compromises. The compromises will vary with the drop. You will put more stress on stuff. One of the most common issues with lowering springs is busting the shock/strut hat where the shock connects with the frame of the car. I've seen this on many different makes. Again, doing a drop doesn't guarantee this, it's just what could go wrong.

Yeah, you'd need an alignment if you are changing the geometry, like lowering springs do.

I've had many lower cars and the old subaru with it's giant nose and the engine in front of the front axle helped me learn. You never go "in" any place that you are not sure if you can get out of. You go park somewhere else or keep driving until you find something nearby. You don't get yourself "stuck". You can handle a LOT of stuff by taking it at an angle, anything from a slight angle to a crazy angle and one of your wheels may hang in the air for a little bit as you transition (but you won't scrape the car).

My rule here is that I wouldn't go lower than the lowest OEM configuration, there's just no good reason IMO and I'm not into "show cars". I like a low car, low driving position, etc., but function trumps everything else. Suspension is needed for bumps. There's often a good deal of leeway between lower-specs and the higher-end specs though, like the most aggressive version of the car will be 20mm-40mm or more lower than the lower-specs. If you want to do it right, you get adjustable shocks (struts) to dial them into the springs. There are sometimes aftermarket non-adjustable struts that are dialed for lower setups.

The best way to do it is always coil-overs, able to set your height and adjust the damping.
 
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Hey everyone I have a 2022 Kia Stinger and I’m thinking about possibly getting some lowering springs put in, but not 100% in on it yet. I have a couple questions I’m hoping some of you who have had the car longer can help out with.

1. I have heard some horror stories that lowering springs will affect the stock shocks of the car and cause some serious damage. Wondering if there is any truth to that?
2. I’m looking to close the wheel gap a bit and give a little more of a aggressive stance, but do not want to make my ride quality suffer or worry about if a slope is to steep,
3. With that in mind what lowering springs would work best and when getting them installed so I need to have the care realigned?

any input is greatly appreciated
I’m getting mine installed next Saturday. However, I just want a mild drop ( daily, spirited driver) and opted for the Ark GTF springs which drops it about 1 inch all around. They are specifically made to work with the oem shocks. Wheel alignment is advised.
 
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Any lowering spring will deteriorate your struts faster than stock, but depending on how you drive it may be negligible. The Ark ones ride like stock apparently, but close the gap and give a better stance.
 
as long as you go with a mild drop, you'll be fine. the ARK GT-Fs don't even need bump stop trimming. On the RWD they only dropped about 1/2". The same would go for eibach pro-kits or the whatever the H&R street version is.

If you slam the car, yes, expect shortened life span on the shocks and struts.
 
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Dropping less than 2" shouldn't really affect the shock/struts too much if you start cutting springs though, all bets are off.
 
Had a diagnosis tool put on all 4 corners by Kia to find out why my car has a pull to the left even after numerous wheel alignments and two steering wheel reset.

Lowering of the car is said to be the reason. The electronics controlling the back dampers have been effected by the drop, apparently the car thinks its in permanent sports mode and is very lively and twitchy. They've told me to go back to stock springs.

The story is as an early Stinger recipient i jumped all over the Eibach springs when they came available for the Stinger. Problem is what they didn't tell us was they shipped the AWD ones, they were the only ones made at the time i believe now. So the back seats lower than it should. In Australia the Stinger is only available Rwd.
 
Isn't "blame the mods" rule #1 for every dealer?
Yeah true the independent suspension place i took it to before thought it wasn't the case of a Kia issue. I
 
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I’m getting mine installed next Saturday. However, I just want a mild drop ( daily, spirited driver) and opted for the Ark GTF springs which drops it about 1 inch all around. They are specifically made to work with the oem shocks. Wheel alignment is advised.
How has you ride been since getting this done. I am looking at either getting these springs or the Eicbach Pro Kit. I just want a lower stance, I don't race or anything, its my daily driver and I hate the large wheel gap. I am not an aggressive driver either. I don't really want a bouncy ride either. I appreciate your feedback. How is the ride quality, do you drive in Sport mode, smart or comfort majority of times. I am on the fence doing this, while I want to decrease the wheel gap, I also don't want to find myself replacing parts for thousands.
 
How has you ride been since getting this done. I am looking at either getting these springs or the Eicbach Pro Kit. I just want a lower stance, I don't race or anything, its my daily driver and I hate the large wheel gap. I am not an aggressive driver either. I don't really want a bouncy ride either. I appreciate your feedback. How is the ride quality, do you drive in Sport mode, smart or comfort majority of times. I am on the fence doing this, while I want to decrease the wheel gap, I also don't want to find myself replacing parts for thousands.
Best choice for me were these ark gtf springs. I also just wanted to close the gap and didn’t want them to look “slammed”. Mind you, these springs really settle and virtually close the gap perfectly and I can still upgrade to 20 inch rims comfortably if I wanted to ( which I don’t). Ride quality is good for a lowered car. I don’t get any floating or bouncing with these springs. I drive in Sports mode on the highway and Comfort locally unless some jerk pisses me off and a lesson needs to be dished out lol. Here’s a pic fully settled..
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Fyi, regarding the first post with adjustable damping on BMW (shockware its called), there is a similar solution with the stinger.

Look up the Mando EDC tuner, which is from the same company in korea that developed the stinger EDC. There are some pretty good reviews on it as it allows you to adjust the damping in different modes.
 
Best choice for me were these ark gtf springs. I also just wanted to close the gap and didn’t want them to look “slammed”. Mind you, these springs really settle and virtually close the gap perfectly and I can still upgrade to 20 inch rims comfortably if I wanted to ( which I don’t). Ride quality is good for a lowered car. I don’t get any floating or bouncing with these springs. I drive in Sports mode on the highway and Comfort locally unless some jerk pisses me off and a lesson needs to be dished out lol. Here’s a pic fully settled..
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Thank you for the feedback. Looks fantastic. Do you have the AWD or RWD?
 
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Hey everyone I have a 2022 Kia Stinger and I’m thinking about possibly getting some lowering springs put in, but not 100% in on it yet. I have a couple questions I’m hoping some of you who have had the car longer can help out with.

1. I have heard some horror stories that lowering springs will affect the stock shocks of the car and cause some serious damage. Wondering if there is any truth to that?
2. I’m looking to close the wheel gap a bit and give a little more of a aggressive stance, but do not want to make my ride quality suffer or worry about if a slope is to steep,
3. With that in mind what lowering springs would work best and when getting them installed so I need to have the care realigned?

any input is greatly appreciated
Do you have electronic controlled suspension?
 
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Anyone know where to get the stinger lowered in the greater Toronto area. Kia wants almost $1500 plus taxes for the Eibach Pro Kit installed and alignment. That's seems absurdly high. I was figuring since they sell the springs, I won't have any warranty issues down the road.

their breakdown was as folllows:

springs $480
labour $800
alignment $160

i don't know any mechanics or good shops that can do this. Any help in steering me in the right direction would be much appreciated.

thanks,
 
Anyone know where to get the stinger lowered in the greater Toronto area. Kia wants almost $1500 plus taxes for the Eibach Pro Kit installed and alignment. That's seems absurdly high. I was figuring since they sell the springs, I won't have any warranty issues down the road.

their breakdown was as folllows:

springs $480
labour $800
alignment $160

i don't know any mechanics or good shops that can do this. Any help in steering me in the right direction would be much appreciated.

thanks,
Did they tell you that your suspension warranty is void if you have the springs installed anywhere else?

Actually, did they tell you your suspension related warranty was still valid if you had the springs installed with them?
 
Did they tell you that your suspension warranty is void if you have the springs installed anywhere else?

Actually, did they tell you your suspension related warranty was still valid if you had the springs installed with them?
$1500 installed, aligned and warranty stll intact? If so, that's a great deal!
 
$1500 installed, aligned and warranty stll intact? If so, that's a great deal!
Interesting. I thought that price was outrageous. I didn't know if dealer installed the springs, they'd knowingly void your warranty and not inform you. They said nothing about my warranty for suspension being voided. I've gone back to them to ask this and waiting to hear back. Looking to get this done around March after the winter. Will report back what they say about the suspension.
 
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