H&R Sport Springs

[corradoMR2]

These are newly available. Got them today.

Getting them installed at the end of the week!

 

[Rufus]

Keep us posted! Have any of your Lexus forum buddies gotten a chance to check out your Stinger in person yet?

 

[corradoMR2]

Keep us posted! Have any of your Lexus forum buddies gotten a chance to check out your Stinger in person yet?

Will post impressions for sure.

Nah no meets yet since many are all ovet the US but they are slowly warming up to the Stinger!

 

[ImportSharkMike]

Ooh nice post installed pics! I've got these in stock but haven't seen anyone around here with them yet.

 

[corradoMR2]

Forgot to mention I got the springs from Essex Distributors for those in Canada. Great customer service, free shipping, good pricing, and no darn custom fees and delays!

So I got them installed today! Lousy day for any photoshoot with all the snow and slush, but here are a few pics with one before shot.

As for driving impressions, I have mixed initial impressions.

Pros:
- Flatter cornering/less body roll
- Less float/wobble on uneven road while cornering
- Reduced wheel gap, perfect to my eyes. (Drop 1.3: f / 1.2" r)

Cons:
- Ride is a touch firmer on impact (analogous to the increase in Sport mode from Comfort mode). This was expected.
- Ride is bouncier over uneven roads (car feels like its wheelbase shrunk by a few inches creating a more pronounced "seesaw" motion). This was not expected.

Overall:
Inconclusive. I want to wait for warmer dryer temps and roads to see if the suspension smooths out a bit. Will drive it a few days more before rendering my final impressions.

BEFORE:

AFTER:

 

[westcoastGT]

Forgot to mention I got the springs from Essex Distributors for those in Canada. Great customer service, free shipping, good pricing, and no darn custom fees and delays!

So I got them installed today! Lousy day for any photoshoot with all the snow and slush, but here are a few pics with one before shot.

As for driving impressions, I have mixed initial impressions.

Pros:
- Flatter cornering/less body roll
- Less float/wobble on uneven road while cornering
- Reduced wheel gap, perfect to my eyes. (Drop 1.3: f / 1.2" r)

Cons:
- Ride is a touch firmer on impact (analogous to the increase in Sport mode from Comfort mode). This was expected.
- Ride is bouncier over uneven roads (car feels like its wheelbase shrunk by a few inches creating a more pronounced "seesaw" motion). This was not expected.

Overall:
Inconclusive. I want to wait for warmer dryer temps and roads to see if the suspension smooths out a bit. Will drive it a few days more before rendering my final impressions.

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really nice looking drop !!

 

[Terra]

So you have the adaptive suspension right ?

 

[corradoMR2]

really nice looking drop !!

Thanks. I"m happy with thr looks!

So you have the adaptive suspension right ?

Yes, though it almost feels like it's not there anymore or is as effective to smooth out the pitch of the car's motion. I'm wondering if something got disconnected during the install, but wouldn't there be an error in the car diagnostics or something displayed on the dash?

 

[Terra]

Any update ? How have they settled in? Can you feel the adaptive comfort to sports mode?

 

[Kamauxx]

Thanks. I"m happy with thr looks!



Yes, though it almost feels like it's not there anymore or is as effective to smooth out the pitch of the car's motion. I'm wondering if something got disconnected during the install, but wouldn't there be an error in the car diagnostics or something displayed on the dash?

What you described is very common for aftermarket lowering springs.

Coilovers are a better option if you don't want to sacrifice ride quality.

 

[corradoMR2]

Any update ? How have they settled in? Can you feel the adaptive comfort to sports mode?

Yes some good news. They are a bit better though I attribute it to the warmer temps lately (4 - 8 deg C). I suspect summer temps will make the ride great. When temps however drop below freezing, that's when the car feels a bit bouncier still.
I'm also getting used to it.
And I have not yet done an alignment after the drop. Will wait till March.

What you described is very common for aftermarket lowering springs.

Coilovers are a better option if you don't want to sacrifice ride quality.

Coilovers can make a lot of noise so I don't take my chances with them any longer.

Had RSR Down springs on a past IS and RC F and were great as pitch was barely affected. Now in fairness to the H&R springs, these have a slightly more aggressive drop by 0.2 to 0.5 inches more than the RSRs providing less travel and likely why the increased pitching motions. The adaptive suspension can only do so much it seems especially in colder temps but do Eibach owners have the same experience...

 

[Kazz]

Coilovers are a better option if you don't want to sacrifice ride quality.

I have to say I disagree here. It depends on the product, vehicle, and the roads you drive on. Putting (Eibach) lowering springs on my 2003 Evo didn't compromise ride quality. Putting coilovers on two different vehicles since definitely negatively impacted ride quality. Of course, roads here are absolutely terrible. But bumps, potholes, and even seams on the interstate are felt far more than they were before.

 

[Dark_Knight GT]

I have to say I disagree here. It depends on the product, vehicle, and the roads you drive on. Putting (Eibach) lowering springs on my 2003 Evo didn't compromise ride quality. Putting coilovers on two different vehicles since definitely negatively impacted ride quality. Of course, roads here are absolutely terrible. But bumps, potholes, and even seams on the interstate are felt far more than they were before.

Same experience here. Last car had KWs and they were awful on not so great roads here. Noisy and rough. In contrast, I had the chance to drive a guys Stinger with the eibach springs and couldn’t tell the difference from stock as far as comfort, noise, etc. Swore I’d never mess with suspension again, but after driving his, I might go with the lowering springs at some point. I don’t keep cars long enough to worry about blowing the shocks prematurely.

 

[DaJackson]

I feel like I’m in the Downpipe/Full Exhaust thread again.

Coilovers are not noisier or a harsher ride than stock. Bad coilovers CAN BE noisier or harsher than stock.

Cheap non dampening/rebound adjustable coils will likely have a harsher ride to provide “better handeling”.

A quality adjustable coil can be set up to provide better handling and have a quality ride.

 

[Dark_Knight GT]

I feel like I’m in the Downpipe/Full Exhaust thread again.

Coilovers are not noisier or a harsher ride than stock. Bad coilovers CAN BE noisier or harsher than stock.

Cheap non dampening/rebound adjustable coils will likely have a harsher ride to provide “better handeling”.

A quality adjustable coil can be set up to provide better handling and have a quality ride.

This was not my experience. I was running KW3s and I consider these to be a quality coil setup. In service of full disclosure, I also had front camber plates which contributed to noise (Dinan). Handling was definitely improved, no argument there. Put me in the “this is what happens when you put racing equipment on a daily driver” camp.

 

[Kazz]

I stand by what I said. KWv3s and BC Racing coils - and a number of other setups I've ridden in. If ride quality is important to you, tread lightly, do a lot of research, and find a setup on another car like you are considering. Expect to pay thousands and thousands of dollars.

 

[DaJackson]

I was running KW3s and I consider these to be a quality coil setup.

Agreed that KW makes a good coil so let me amend my statement below...

A quality adjustable coil can be set up to provide better handling and have a quality ride.

A quality adjustable coil can be set up to provide better handling and have a quality ride. It can also be be slammed all the way down and have the firmness maxed out and ride like crap.

Not saying that exactly what you did but few people buy coils and want to have a stock like ride.

 

[corradoMR2]

Same experience here. Last car had KWs and they were awful on not so great roads here. Noisy and rough. In contrast, I had the chance to drive a guys Stinger with the eibach springs and couldn’t tell the difference from stock as far as comfort, noise, etc. Swore I’d never mess with suspension again, but after driving his, I might go with the lowering springs at some point. I don’t keep cars long enough to worry about blowing the shocks prematurely.

@Steve Ostrowski seems to be aligned with your experience on the Eibachs. If they don't have the bounce I have with the H&R springs that are more sensitive (bouncier) in colder temps, Eibachs would be the springs to get!

 

[F4D3D]

Im looking at these springs as well, but it seems like you're the only one I could find with it installed. Are you still rockin the HR springs ?
Has your opinion of the ride quality changed?

 

[corradoMR2]

Im looking at these springs as well, but it seems like you're the only one I could find with it installed. Are you still rockin the HR springs ?
Has your opinion of the ride quality changed?

Yes, my opinion has changed slightly, but for the better. I got used to the slight bounciness and ride is a touch softer in warmer temps. It's kind of what to expect with any lowering springs to be honest and I had a similar experience with my past IS. Overall happy with them - no regrets.