Drag/Acceleration Fastest Stinger's...

[TorkMe]

Anyone find it odd that a majority of the fastest Stingers have to run stacked tune and piggy back?

I think the only car that is not running a tune with the piggy back is the DangOne, everyone else is stacked (less the Tork Car).

Discuss...

 

[AWDGT2]

Sure, the guy faster than you, Joel #1, and #3 me, only use the piggy back for meth and logging right now. Now I know you have some type of controller for meth right? May as well call that a piggy back if your ECU tune isn't doing it on it's own. How are you data logging? Is that plugged into your ODBII? But I guess stating "Majority" is correct but definitely not all of us.

 

[TorkMe]

Sure, the guy faster than you, Joel #1, and #3 me, only use the piggy back for meth and logging right now. Now I know you have some type of controller for meth right? May as well call that a piggy back if your ECU tune isn't doing it on it's own. How are you data logging? Is that plugged into your ODBII? But I guess stating "Majority" is correct but definitely not all of us.

Well, I have been told otherwise but that could just be hearsay.

I have a meth controller from Snow Performance, but so do a lot of people.

I datalog with a $6000 emulator, as should any shop that needs good logging. Its plugged into the OBDII port, and records in 50 millisecond intervals. As soon as I can get the btrace transfer working, I will be able to log and then view recorded data in the maped area, to trace down inconsistency in the tune.

If anyone wants an affordable logger, this is what I use for track days and street use.

Its a nightmare to set up, but the log quality is amazing, on par with the $6000 emulator that I wasted my money on

UCM100 – OBD-Tool

www.evc.de

 

[AWDGT2]

Joel is Lozic and I'm Sxth. I have no TCU tune yet but looking to get one soon. I'll look at that btrace logger, tnx

 

[TorkMe]

Joel is Lozic and I'm Sxth. I have no TCU tune yet but looking to get one soon. I'll look at that btrace logger, tnx

Well, Joel used the JB4 to fix some boost issues is what I have been told, but again.... could be hearsay.

As far as you being only SXTH tuned... really? Out of no where, SXTH suddenly has one of the fastest tunes on the market, and not another single car or dyno from them?

I really hope that they can duplicate your results, because a single car running this fast, looks really bad for them.

 

[AWDGT2]

LOL, you nailed it! Out of no where. Actually I'm the very first ECU, numero uno. I guess you can say I'm the test dummy. As far as looking bad, you have that reversed. It makes your 3 years of efforts look bad and makes Sxth look like stellar tuners. 8/100th's of a second difference was my 3200 DA that day. Now I know you got some tricks up your sleeve with some porting, ect and I truly hope you get faster, it will only motivate me to do the same. Once my weather cools down like yours is, I get my TCU tune, and go with my one of a kind DPI for meth look out! LOL

 

[TorkMe]

LOL, you nailed it! Out of no where. Actually I'm the very first ECU, numero uno. I guess you can say I'm the test dummy. As far as looking bad, you have that reversed. It makes your 3 years of efforts look bad and makes Sxth look like stellar tuners. 8/100th's of a second difference was my 3200 DA that day. Now I know you got some tricks up your sleeve with some porting, ect and I truly hope you get faster, it will only motivate me to do the same. Once my weather cools down like yours is, I get my TCU tune, and go with my one of a kind DPI for meth look out! LOL

Actually, you are not the first

About 2 years ago when SXTH was making and designing the intakes, they had a customer that they were working with, they also worked with Will in trying to sort some of the part throttle boost issues and eventually started working with NKLabs (I think that is their name) in Korea to sort mapping and flashing efforts.

Make me look bad, buddy... 4 of the fastest 10 are running my tune. It might actually be 5 now

I ran 11.07 (in Draggy) over 2 years ago, both AWD and RWD applications, so... about me looking bad, is laughable.

Now, let's talk about my car and what it achieved. I have two turbos that look like they have digested debris, leaking head gasket from crazy boost during testing, and a transmission that has a hurt 1-2 shift seal. With all that, I still ran faster than you, with the RWD disadvantage, and a slower 60ft time. Just imagine, if all that was fixed!

 

[AWDGT2]

I'll say it again, I'm the 1st Sxth ECU, Will set me up with Nathan for the 1st prototype. Sorry that hurts your feelings. I ran an 11.16 with nothing but bolt ons and a JB. Not as fast as 11.07, but really, bolts ons and a JB... 11.16. You've done great things with you shop car no doubt but nothing worth dropping the mic. When you hit #1, I'll be the first to congratulate you, I will. Don't get comfortable though.

 

[TorkMe]

I'll say it again, I'm the 1st Sxth ECU, Will set me up with Nathan for the 1st prototype. Sorry that hurts your feelings. I ran an 11.16 with nothing but bolt ons and a JB. Not as fast as 11.07, but really, bolts ons and a JB... 11.16. You've done great things with you shop car no doubt but nothing worth dropping the mic. When you hit #1, I'll be the first to congratulate you, I will. Don't get comfortable though.

Buddy, you have been lied to, lol. Unless you owned a blue Stinger back in 2019

They had a Stinger in for development (ECU) in 2019. If I look at little harder, I bet I can find more details on the IG page, but... this should suffice. You will never, hurt my feelings, LOL!!!

I am not getting comfortable... and, hitting first is not the goal. Setting a standard so high, that everyone just give up... now that is an achievement
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[AWDGT2]

Yup, "tuning and development". I got the first finished product, thank you. And you just countered your own argument John These are your words "Out of no where, SXTH suddenly has one of the fastest tunes on the market, and not another single car or dyno from them"
You should make up your mind where and what kind of argument your going to make. First you say they are out of no where, then you make it an effort to prove yourself wrong. wow.....

 

[TorkMe]

Yup, "tuning and development". I got the first finished product, thank you. And you just countered your own argument John These are your words "Out of no where, SXTH suddenly has one of the fastest tunes on the market, and not another single car or dyno from them"
You should make up your mind where and what kind of argument your going to make. First you say they are out of no where, then you make it an effort to prove yourself wrong. wow.....

Well, what is finished? I know that SXTH was working with LAP3... they had a whole set of tunes ready for the community, that didn't work out for them (not sure why). Well, I did counter my own argument with tune being "out of nowhere", but it is out of nowhere that they deliver an 11.0 second tune? And, its only .1 faster than the piggy back (your words not mine). So, exactly how great is this tune? LOL!!!

The argument I am making, they have been working on at tune since 2019 and you are telling met that you are the only person to get said tune, in 3 years? Or, is it that... you think that they are finished with the tune, and it will not be getting any faster with their tune? Or... is it that Nathan is tuning for them now, and it not LAP3 tunes? Or, is it that NKLABS is now tuning for them, and Nathan is just doing in house calibrations? Wait... didn't they make a post about working with AlphaSpeed also? Hell, I don't know who't tuning for them now... so you are right, I really have no idea if you have a finished tune, of if you have something that has been passed through 4 or 5 different tuners, lol.

Given that I am horrible at making an argument about this, its because I have no idea who is actually tuning their cars

And, to go from 11.1 to 11.0 with a tune vs a piggy back.... yikes. Not even going to touch that, because even piggy back owners will have a hard time paying the $3000 for a tuning solution that comes with a spare ECU, bridge cable tablet and 3 tune revisions Not when you can buy a used piggy back for $400!

I have now created more questions for myself than I have answers, and that rarely happens.

Do not bother responding, because there is very little here for anyone to argue about

 

[AWDGT2]

I can't help but respond, LOL. So many words and so many questions I can't answer. Here's the deal. Will linked me up with Nathan, I got an ECU sent out, he said it was experimental but worked well on his test car. We went back and forth for a few and I got what I have now after a few track trips. It was understood that this was the first one out to the public and I was a good candidate. It really is that simple.