Lozic ECU + TCU + AWD Tune

[Pearly]

Without resetting the ECU, it was likely still anticipating the low fuel quality and would have continued to adjust and allow more power the more you drove it if I were to guess. With any fuel change like that it's recommended to disconnect the battery and let it sit for at least 5mins.

I actually did do this as well. But you could be right that it had not adjusted. Oh well glad to have the correct tune coming in. Hope it’s faster than JB4 for me too!

 

[Seeing_Red]

I actually did do this as well. But you could be right that it had not adjusted. Oh well glad to have the correct tune coming in. Hope it’s faster than JB4 for me too!

In that case, who knows! In reality, it was never going to be right since it was never the right tune lol excited to hear the update when you get the ECU that was actually made for your vehicle. I'm anticipating good things!

 

[Yves998]

I did put 4 gallons of e85 in. Timing corrections went way down (2.3-4.5) but boost never would go above 19 for some reason and sport mode felt slower than comfort. Back into factory ECU JB4 map2 hit over 20psi and most timing correction was 0.8

Your timing pull totally sounds like mine with 1.5 bar 93 tune and pump 94. Too bad I have no access with e85 so going WMI is probably only way. This log is chevron 94 ethanol free. Petro Canada 94 E10 actually have slightly less pulling range but still maximum -6 degree.

 

[Pearly]

Your timing pull totally sounds like mine with 1.5 bar 93 tune and pump 94. Too bad I have no access with e85 so going WMI is probably only way. This log is chevron 94 ethanol free. Petro Canada 94 E10 actually have slightly less pulling range but still maximum -6 degree.

Have you thought maybe doing a 1.5 bar tune with 91 (even though you’ll do 94) to help clean that up a bit?

 

[Yves998]

Have you thought maybe doing a 1.5 bar tune with 91 (even though you’ll do 94) to help clean that up a bit?

Timing pull less than 6 is nothing to worry about it for a canned tune tho so I don’t really care for now.

 

[HoosierStinger]

I'm still in the learning phase of interpreting logs. The n54tech website states exactly what @Yves998 is saying. 5 or higher is normal for pump gas and heavy E mixtures/WMI should be below 2.0

 

[HoosierStinger]

I did put 4 gallons of e85 in. Timing corrections went way down (2.3-4.5) but boost never would go above 19 for some reason and sport mode felt slower than comfort. Back into factory ECU JB4 map2 hit over 20psi and most timing correction was 0.8

It sounds like your engine was protecting itself. I guess that's a good thing being you had a 93 tune running on 91. I'm sure Lozic will get you straightened out. My bet is you will have a new ECU with the correct settings next week.

My remap came today. I'll install it tonight. I hope all is well with mine. Now I'm a little worried that everything will be correct on mine

 

[Slip_Angle]

I know someone who ran an early 1.5bar tune on 91 for months and thousands of KMs. Not recommended but at the same time there were no issues, so I wouldn't be concerned. The ECU in the Stinger is pretty advanced and really won't allow bad things to happen.

 

[Yves998]

I'm still in the learning phase of interpreting logs. The n54tech website states exactly what @Yves998 is saying. 5 or higher is normal for pump gas and heavy E mixtures/WMI should be below 2.0

Yup. Considering ECU can pull up to 12 to save our ass, any pull below 6 for your daily driving optimal gasoline still gives ECU a lot more to pull when you’re running crappier gas or having heat soak.

 

[Yves998]

Have you thought maybe doing a 1.5 bar tune with 91 (even though you’ll do 94) to help clean that up a bit?

It would help a lot but I switched from 91 1.3bar to 93 1.5 bar. Once you tried the 93 boost curve it hard to go back to 91 oneAnd yes there’s almost no timing pull when I’m using 91 1.3 bar but it’s too conservative for my taste.

 

[Seeing_Red]

It would help a lot but I switched from 91 1.3bar to 93 1.5 bar. Once you tried the 93 boost curve it hard to go back to 91 oneAnd yes there’s almost no timing pull when I’m using 91 1.3 bar but it’s too conservative for my taste.

I'm curious being a JB4 only guy as of now.. I'm on Map4 using an ~E30 blend, would really be curious what the comparable Lozic tune would be

Added a couple logs so you guys can see the boost curves

 

[Pearly]

Has anyone else had the cruise control “problem”

 

[Pearly]

I'm curious being a JB4 only guy as of now.. I'm on Map4 using an ~E30 blend, would really be curious what the comparable Lozic tune would be

Added a couple logs so you guys can see the boost curves

I actually get that much on Map2. My factory ECU is somehow 15-16psi

 

[Pearly]

Also m

I'm curious being a JB4 only guy as of now.. I'm on Map4 using an ~E30 blend, would really be curious what the comparable Lozic tune would be

Added a couple logs so you guys can see the boost curves

Also my guess is that would be closest to a 1.3Bar tune. But I’m sure others have a better guess.

 

[Seeing_Red]

I actually get that much on Map2. My factory ECU is somehow 15-16psi

That's impressive! Might have got yourself a unicorn there haha. I noticed the peak boost is only a couple PSI different from Map2 to Map4 for me. I'm assuming the majority of it is the curve steepening?

Also, I'm wondering too how much it will change when winter comes again.. were not even fully in summer yet and the mornings are 80s and afternoons mid 90s.

 

[Pearly]

That's impressive! Might have got yourself a unicorn there haha. I noticed the peak boost is only a couple PSI different from Map2 to Map4 for me. I'm assuming the majority of it is the curve steepening?

Also, I'm wondering too how much it will change when winter comes again.. were not even fully in summer yet and the mornings are 80s and afternoons mid 90s.

I had someone tell me it was crazy that factory was that much.

 

[Mangimadang]

I was wondering if someone could help me decipher my logs. I read somewhere that on pump 93, your timing should be less from 2-4. I did a pull 2nd - 4th (1.5 bar ecu only). I’m still figuring out how to read the logs and to understand what they mean. You guys are way more knowledgeable than i am so I appreciate the help.

Also, the sputtering issue was isolated to the plugs. I changed out the plugs to the HKS and now the car pulls just fine.

 

[Seeing_Red]

I was wondering if someone could help me decipher my logs. I read somewhere that on pump 93, your timing should be less from 2-4. I did a pull 2nd - 4th (1.5 bar ecu only). I’m still figuring out how to read the logs and to understand what they mean. You guys are way more knowledgeable than i am so I appreciate the help.

Also, the sputtering issue was isolated to the plugs. I changed out the plugs to the HKS and now the car pulls just fine.

So, some guys should be able to help you out here with logs but also post over here:

Kia & Hyundai JB4 - JB4tech.com - International Turbo Tuning Discussion

Kia & Hyundai JB4 Kia & Hyundai Turbo

www.jb4tech.com

Terry from BMS monitors that thread and will take a look within a couple days from my experience.

From my limited knowledge it doesn't look awful.. looking and ign 2-6, 2-4 are within tolerance but curious why ign 6 is pulling significantly more timing and 5 is up there as well. I believe with pump gas the tolerance for these values are expected to be higher but it seems to me it should be fairly uniform across all cylinders.

Hopefully someone else with more knowledge can chime in as well!

 

[StingertimeNC]

The log suggests you are just exceeding your fuel quality with the level of boost the car is trying to push. Others will chime in.
I'm running 93 octane with WMI and pushing peak boost numbers in the 21-22 range and ignition 2-6 will typically stay in the .8-2.3 range. I'm guessing for 93 octane you would likely be better off at 1.3 or 1.4 bar tunes. Also, if you have access to e85, you could try adding 4 gallons in to the mix with your 93. On the other hand, if the car feels like it's running great, just enjoy it, in spite of the fact the ecu is retarding timing a bit.

As a reference, check out the attached log. Boost levels around 20-22 the whole pull, very few timing deviations. 35 -105mph. I only use Exxon gas by the way.

 

[Mangimadang]

The log suggests you are just exceeding your fuel quality with the level of boost the car is trying to push. Others will chime in.
I'm running 93 octane with WMI and pushing peak boost numbers in the 21-22 range and ignition 2-6 will typically stay in the .8-2.3 range. I'm guessing for 93 octane you would likely be better off at 1.3 or 1.4 bar tunes. Also, if you have access to e85, you could try adding 4 gallons in to the mix with your 93. On the other hand, if the car feels like it's running great, just enjoy it, in spite of the fact the ecu is retarding timing a bit.

As a reference, check out the attached log. Boost levels around 20-22 the whole pull, very few timing deviations. 35 -105mph. I only use Exxon gas by the way.

Thanks guys!