Savage Review of the 2022 2.5T

[andyecon]

 

[Ohiocruiser]

I love his sense of humor.

 

[andyecon]

Yeah, I love those guys, just too bad that they disliked the 2.5T so much.

 

[stoopid]

Yeah, I love those guys, just too bad that they disliked the 2.5T so much.

I'd call it an objective observation of the RWD (non LSD) platform. I agree with the video, without LSD it's missing the mark as a performance vehicle. As a grand tourer, it's solid and he even states that. People who want the performance buy the Stinger GT with LSD.

He does fail to mention that there's a LSD available for the RWD GT (3.3TT) model. The GT line is the downscaled/"base" version of Stinger. Omitting that point seems criminal.

 

[andyecon]

I'd call it an objective observation of the RWD (non LSD (Limited Slip Differential)) platform. I agree with the video, without LSD (Limited Slip Differential) it's missing the mark as a performance vehicle. As a grand tourer, it's solid and he even states that. People who want the performance by the Stinger GT with LSD (Limited Slip Differential).

He does fail to mention that there's a LSD (Limited Slip Differential) available for the RWD GT (3.3TT) model. The GT line is the downscaled/"base" version of Stinger. Omitting that point seems criminal.

Agreed, it would be nice to see them review a 2022 V6 model, because they haven't had one since 2018.

 

[NYBIOMED]

Curious. I wonder if you could pop in a rear LSD from a donor? I have the AWD, would I be able to "rotate" if I removed the fuse that powers the transfer case/front wheels? It's not all bad and the reality is that hes comparing the GT-Line vs BMW/Audi cars that are probably running close to 25% more than those. The review is not as brutal I was thinking from the outset, lots of positives: He like the power of the 2.5T, it's quiet, the styling and space seem fine, It drives "straight" and does 90% of everything well....

 

[JSolo]

I'd say it's a very objective review. Plenty of performance for about 5/10's on the street. I don't go over that, especially in unknown areas. For a younger driver (or older driver who drives like a younger one) seeking more hooligan like behavior this car may indeed be inadequate.

 

[General_Vodka]

He's not wrong. Without a good diff the 2.5t is not really that fun. With an LSD and without that brake vectoring the 2.5t has more then enough power to have fun in.

 

[Boogetsbizzy]

He’s never like the stinger unfortunately

 

[RM7]

LSD or stiffer sways? The car is soft in stock form. IME the sways are a good way to go about fixing this. LSD would help even more, but the excessive lean and lack of front grip are some of the primary factors IME.

 

[5tinger]

The 3.3 is too much power for a daily.

 

[JSolo]

^^Depends where you live. If rural or out in the country it's fine. Metro/urban, overkill. We live in the suburbs but still have what I consider frequent traffic lights - 1/8 mi or so. In the city proper there are traffic lights almost on every block. There's other hazards too -- car jackings, shootings, speed cameras, red light cameras. Truly ghetto.

 

[General_Vodka]

The 3.3 is too much power for a daily.

Objection! I find it to have just the right amount of power. Now a hellcat on the other hand... But you are right, some people are will never touch the limit of the 3.3s power just because they live in an area where that's impossible. That's a shame honestly.

 

[falanger]

Does that sourpuss actually like ANYTHING though? Like doug d I can only take him in microdoses but from what Ive seen he seems to dislike everything, even life in general.

 

[andyecon]

Does that sourpuss actually like ANYTHING though? Like doug d I can only take him in microdoses but from what Ive seen he seems to dislike everything, even life in general.

He definitely doesn’t like compromise cars… like, he loves purpose-built sports cars and favorably reviews good family haulers when it is clear they don’t aspire to be exciting. He is typically less enthusiastic than other reviewers about things like the Stinger that are attempting to be sporty but livable daily drivers.

 

[JSolo]

<<<---- Ain't no sport bike even though it has a Yamaha R1 engine (detuned). Great midrange, handles relatively well, comfortable for long days (725 miles in one day was my longest). Sort of a swiss army bike.

Stinger is very similar. Not all of us have a pocket book which affords specific vehicles for specific purposes.

 

[stoopid]

... Not all of us have a pocket book which affords specific vehicles for specific purposes.

Agree. I've never had the wallet for "the best" of anything. Also, I don't strive as my life's main ambition to fill a wallet so I could. I've still ended up with a few nice things, certainly more things than friends with kids and/or cushy retirement portfolios. Life will always be about priorities. Live now, or gamble on living later.

 

[General_Vodka]

Honestly if I drove over HUNDREDS of cars I would get real tired of the PR marketing BS eventually. Open diff rwd =\= enthusiast. You wanna know what's open diff rwd? A work van. He isn't getting paid by kia and has the balls to tell them that they cut the wrong corner. it's not like all of the people in charge are bean counters, Kia wised up and all 2019 rwd 3.3s came with an LSD. Looks like the 2.5 isn't enthusiast enough for kia to put in an LSD, or even offer one...
Remember he roasted the 2.5 k5 for the same thing, the one wheel peel got old real quick and kia didn't even offer an LSD to actually take advantage of the power increase. The bean counters strike again

 

[auty9000]

The 3.3 is too much power for a daily.

That is very subjective. To me personally, 450-500 horsepower is the sweet spot. Sure, you'll never top it out (maybe) but the power is very usable in several situations.

I've had vehicles that I wished had more power. I've never wished for less. But, as I said, this is all very subjective. The 2.0 and 2.5 4 cylinders exist just for that reason.

 

[RM7]

That is very subjective. To me personally, 450-500 horsepower is the sweet spot. Sure, you'll never top it out (maybe) but the power is very usable in several situations.

I've had vehicles that I wished had more power. I've never wished for less. But, as I said, this is all very subjective. The 2.0 and 2.5 4 cylinders exist just for that reason.

Daily driving a 455hp car and also taking it to the track, I can tell you that the nannies are working full time day-to-day. You might as well be out there with 300hp, the way that power is kept in check on the road. Less HP can be a lot more fun as a daily, especially when it's coupled with a lot of torque down low (turbo). The difference turning off all the nannies that are required to keep a 400-500hp car in check is pretty extreme.